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This is the most accurate description of Eagle I've ever heard. It describes that fkn place in the 90s too. It never changed.

Thats why I quit. Much happier now away from AAG.

Good Luck.

Trying god am I trying to get out.

You, me and 2300 more guys.

I just cant get through the door, it's jammed with everyone else trying to go through it to get out of here.

Well, anyone hear anything yet? Still waiting for an official comm...

Rumor has it the company took ALPA's latest counter proposal. Highly
unconfirmed, maybe just speculation.

That's what I'm hearing as well

Who at envoy actually cares. We all are applying else where and wishing management the best.

I sure hope you guys didn't turn into scabs....

MGT took the ALPA offer of a 10/2 scale with 50% medical contributions in turn for flow numbers and grandfathering for everybody on property/seniority list. Envoy will also be merged with PDT and PSA, where as per the agreement, all aircraft will be transferred to Envoy. PSA and PDT pilots will not have seniority rights. Lee Moak is happy with the deal.

Sounds legit

Do you really think Moak cares? Moak would make Envoy pilots sit on cement blocks in the flight deck in exchange for .01% pay raises at mainline and another laser beam conference on his agenda.

Dont make me bribe fable for your ip address

Forgive my ignorance, but what does this mean?

Source?


Filler filler

Nothing...it was a sarcastic post. How are you guys actually falling for this? Seriously, use your brains.

Just stirring the pot. Not much fun to be had on here otherwise :)

Just gave up your insurance with that 50% contribution......essentially.

Is this also meaning that any future Envoy pilots will not have the flow or grandfathering?

Anyways, this doesn't seem right at all.....is this post for real?

Just kidding....speculation is fun sometimes.

TA is out in your email, that previous rumor is BS , not even close

Same as AIP basically but 20 less 175s and less new hire flow slots. I hope it passes for everyone's sake at Envoy.

Are those the 175s that went to Compass?

If this TA passes, every single Envoy pilot owes every PSA pilot an apology.

So what's the new deal? :confused:

Pay freeze until 2017. Then 1% IAI. 12/4 caps. Health insurance increase and only mentions 40 175s as a guaranteed fleet. Still losing 100+ planes and won't have any movement. $7500 signing bonus for FO, $12500 for captains. Weak language on flow throughs to AA. Per diem increases by $.05 until it reaches $2.00

Fleet commitment of 40 175s, starting in November 2015.
12.5 K signing bonus for CAs, 7.5K for FOs, 5K for FOs who stick around.
Higher insurance, minimal increase to per diem, better flow through. Didn't we vote this down already :D?

Ha!! PSA is the reason we are in this mess. Reading the TA makes me even angrier at them.

Basically the last TA minus the 20 planes compass is getting. This time it will probably pass. It's unfortunate envoy was placed in this position.

Yup, a year of Jerry Glass threats apparently wore down the MEC.

It goes to a pilot vote next.

40 airframes...what is that, 480 pilots?

Hold the Line envoy. PSA PDT XJET are salivating like stray dogs at a steakhouse.

Good Luck.

Whether this passes or not- I don't owe one single PSA pilot <squat>.

The reasons why have been covered ad nausium.

soo...12/4 caps....envoy pilots really will be bringing down the industry.....

shouldn't be welcome on any jumpseat for being the scum of the industry.....







i hope for your livelihood you accept it.....but wow, pot meet kettle.

You pass indoc yet?

absolutely

Have you even seen a real lion, with horns and fangs and wings?

K for your information, a-hole, I have seen a lion. And not one of your crap ass queen of the jungle homoerotic psy-cat lions. A real lion, with fangs and horns and wings. Don't pull your weird voodoo hypnosis crap on me when you don't even know dubyu tee eff you're talking about.

12/4 for new Hires.
Current FOs stay in the current 8yr payscale.

824 flow = 50%, metered up to 30 after the 1st 175 get here
Protected Pilot = 35%, metered up to 25 per month. After done with the 49th 176 goes up to 50% or 30 a month
NH after Protected = 35%, 15 slots
NHs after DOS = 25%, 5slots