Envoy Vacancy Bid Released
08-10-2015 | 07:45 AM
#101
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From: Semi-Retired...
3900+ mandatory retirements at AA alone in the next 5.5 years. Not including the guys leaving who aren't waiting until 65
08-10-2015 | 08:04 AM
#102
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From: GV Captain
I have read it. What have I said that isn't true?
The issue I brought up is you once again "carrying the company's water" by touting ad naseaum that LOOK, ENVOY HAS FLOWED 70% OF AA NEW HIRES THIS YEAR. Other than pointing out you wearing the recruiting/management mouthpiece hat, my point was not to expect 70% to continue beyond AAG directly benefiting from it. Expect a decline, hopefully to not any lower than the agreement, but this company does have a history of not giving a crap about agreements and letting arbitrators figure it out YEARS later. We are currently in the lucky position, in this instance, of our desires being aligned.
The issue I brought up is you once again "carrying the company's water" by touting ad naseaum that LOOK, ENVOY HAS FLOWED 70% OF AA NEW HIRES THIS YEAR. Other than pointing out you wearing the recruiting/management mouthpiece hat, my point was not to expect 70% to continue beyond AAG directly benefiting from it. Expect a decline, hopefully to not any lower than the agreement, but this company does have a history of not giving a crap about agreements and letting arbitrators figure it out YEARS later. We are currently in the lucky position, in this instance, of our desires being aligned.
Good Luck!
08-10-2015 | 09:19 AM
#103
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There is overlap, but not at the level your indicating. It's one of the reasons the DOJ allowed the merge, there wasn't a ton of overlap. Historically you see capacity reductions and potentially even furloughs.... But you didn't have 80% of their pilots retiring within 10 years either.
Your fear bomb has very little teeth. This was your big secret conspiracy theory? This is what you accused the union of hiding?? Something that was specifically mentioned already by the DOJ ??
Your fear bomb has very little teeth. This was your big secret conspiracy theory? This is what you accused the union of hiding?? Something that was specifically mentioned already by the DOJ ??
Fear bomb? Conspiracy theory? Neither.
If you're not management, you should consider applying. You'd go far.
08-10-2015 | 09:31 AM
#104
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08-10-2015 | 09:33 AM
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Okay, so that was what you were referring to then. It's already been addressed by the DOJ publicly. No secrets being kept from anybody dispite your false assertions
08-10-2015 | 10:00 AM
#106
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From: GV Captain
Good Luck!
08-10-2015 | 10:24 AM
#107
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From: HUD cripple.
From now until the end of 2020, if everyone goes to 65, LAA shows 1,496 retirements, 2067 if you go to the end of 2021.
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