Envoy Vacancy Bid Released
08-09-2015 | 10:37 AM
#81
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Do the math. With 20-30 pilots/month flowing, there will be quite a bit of movement. If I were coming to the regionals, I would give Envoy some serious consideration. Upgrade time within a few years, then flowing to AA not long after that. Beats flying for Trans States or Mesa for several years, then on to Allegiant or some other lateral move for several more years. Then getting hired by a legacy several years later...if you're lucky enough to get an interview.
08-09-2015 | 10:53 AM
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What you guys aren't factoring in is the overlap. It's gonna bite a lot of you right in the @ss. Don't be stupid guys. Don't by a bill of goods from these mutts. Anyone that believes ANYTHING that comes from this companies mouth will get exactly what they deserve. The "management" at eagleconvoy are just parroting what their handlers tell them. They don't know their @ss from a hole in the ground.
When the USAir/AA seniority gets fully integrated and implemented there is gonna be some surprised people at the w/o regionals.
You guys better be beating the he!! out of the bushes trying to get out of there to Delta or United or swa.
When the USAir/AA seniority gets fully integrated and implemented there is gonna be some surprised people at the w/o regionals.
You guys better be beating the he!! out of the bushes trying to get out of there to Delta or United or swa.
08-09-2015 | 02:19 PM
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That is currently true. I'm sure that it has mostly been to get rid of those expensive pesky senior captains rather than out of the kindness of AAG management. What happens after the 824 and captains are much less senior as well as capped at 12 year pay? I bet the percentage begins a downward trend as the 824 comes to an end.
No cap if they don't send at least 220 each year.
08-09-2015 | 02:23 PM
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What you guys aren't factoring in is the overlap. It's gonna bite a lot of you right in the @ss. Don't be stupid guys. Don't by a bill of goods from these mutts. Anyone that believes ANYTHING that comes from this companies mouth will get exactly what they deserve. The "management" at eagleconvoy are just parroting what their handlers tell them. They don't know their @ss from a hole in the ground.
When the USAir/AA seniority gets fully integrated and implemented there is gonna be some surprised people at the w/o regionals.
You guys better be beating the he!! out of the bushes trying to get out of there to Delta or United or swa.
When the USAir/AA seniority gets fully integrated and implemented there is gonna be some surprised people at the w/o regionals.
You guys better be beating the he!! out of the bushes trying to get out of there to Delta or United or swa.
Don't throw stones without telling them what you mean. Do you even know what you mean or are you just making crap up now?
They already revised their hiring for next year. It was originally to be 341 to replace retirements. Their latest is they expect to hire 500 next year.
So, what's your big - post seniority list merger - news? I'd like to know too.
08-09-2015 | 02:28 PM
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Tell us then, what exactly do you think will happen with a merged seniority list. Will all those pilots all of a sudden magically continue flying past age 65? No?
And there is no provision in Envoy's or Piedmont's flow language about a merged seniority list at mainline. If anything it would increase Envoy's flow since US Air's pilots are that much older than AA's on average. Envoy still gets 50% of each class and Piedmont still gets their share (can't remember the number off the top of my head) and PSA still gets their 4 interviews per month.
Nice try.
08-09-2015 | 02:37 PM
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08-09-2015 | 02:53 PM
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They are, and are just under 70% for the year.
220 was picked specifically because they didn't know what AA's hiring will be each month for the next 10 years and it gives them a small buffer in case AA classes are smaller than 40 new hires. If classes get too small... Under 220 for the year, we step up in pay above the cap.
There's tons of details people seem to ignore. You might want to go actually read it all before posting your expert analysis
08-09-2015 | 03:01 PM
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We are entitled to 50%. The agreement says they'll send more when they can.
They are, and are just under 70% for the year.
220 was picked specifically because they didn't know what AA's hiring will be each month for the next 10 years and it gives them a small buffer in case AA classes are smaller than 40 new hires. If classes get too small... Under 220 for the year, we step up in pay above the cap.
There's tons of details people seem to ignore. You might want to go actually read it all before posting your expert analysis
They are, and are just under 70% for the year.
220 was picked specifically because they didn't know what AA's hiring will be each month for the next 10 years and it gives them a small buffer in case AA classes are smaller than 40 new hires. If classes get too small... Under 220 for the year, we step up in pay above the cap.
There's tons of details people seem to ignore. You might want to go actually read it all before posting your expert analysis
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