Originally Posted by Smutter

If I was new to the industry I would choose the following airlines.

Compass
Endeavor
Skywest
Commutair(has to be better then any of the following)
Piedmont
PSA
Mesa
Envoy(I've said it before, Envoy is the new Mesa)
Hell wait a year, and republic will be Jr. And hiring like crazy

I would choose XJT/ASA but don't even have a Luke warm feeling about them.

Does anyone really choose TSA and Go jets anymore, or have they given up trying

Originally Posted by eaglefly

You know what can be explained ?

You guys.

You come on this forum SELLING this airline to others based on claims you know or suspect are inflated and why ?

To grease the rails of your own exit.

None of you guys plan on staying at Envoy one microsecond longer then necessary, so your feigned "devotion" to Envoy is a facade. The smoke plume even admits to being an 824. Your sole reason for coming here and selling B.S. until it was obvious it couldn't be sold anymore, is concern for YOURSELVES. You couldn't care less about the hapless suckers you lure in to suck eggs in your wake there once you've flown the coop to AA and you know it. I argue that between us, it is I that care more about pilots in general then you, for I am not here trying to pad my career on their carcasses, but instead offering another POV for them to consider regarding not only Envoy, but the motives of dubious hucksters who are so worried about their own skin, they'd screw anyone and everyone to fluff it with a little more cushion.

You guys are nothing but a fraud and it enrages you when others here call you out on it. Get used to it, because as long as fraudsters exist, there will be those who seek to expose them. Sadly, the AA pilot cadre will be inheriting characters like you and only become weaker with the arrival of each one. As a side note, it must be maddening to come to the conclusion you're destined to become the same "loser" you frequently attack me as being, that being one who couldn't get hired anywhere and had to flow to make a legacy.

The only difference between us, is that I didn't attempt to throw other pilots under the bus to get where I got, while you jackals can make no such claim. Keep howling, but your fur isn't fluffy enough to hide your true fangs and most here can see that IMO.

Originally Posted by eaglefly

I seem to recall a recent poll of regional airline considerations showing not a single vote for Envoy.

Originally Posted by snippercr

Can you tone the emotion down just a bit? You have some very serious accusations there - especially when I and many others here have never sold Envoy. You confuse the heck out of arguing with YOU and selling envoy. You could claim the sky is orange and huff and puff till you are blue in the face. I tell you it is blue, and I am an envoy sales man.

Throwing another pilot under the bus? I think I have reached my limit with you. Arguing is good fun and all but that is an extremely baseless attack, personal, and offensive. I do not know what you are accusing me of but that is way to extreme. Tone the emotion down.

Originally Posted by eaglefly

You're demanding I tone down emotion ?

LOL !

Considering all the insults and personal attacks I am constantly under siege against, that's funny. Actually, just a few days ago, your group was all giddy because they thought I actually cried. I think your group needs to practice what it preaches, if this is your new position.

Please.

...and truly, I hope you're not crying this time. Now you know how I feel, as I've PASSED my limit with all of you long ago. Stop attacking me and you won't have to worry about emotion as I've found much of what you say to me offensive and obnoxious.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander as if one reviews the history here.......including YOUR history, then the points I made in that post are valid.

Originally Posted by snippercr

Please, stop lumping me into some group. Only one person here is actively selling envoy. Call him out. Many here disagree with you but just because me, or anyone else disagrees with you does not make them what you have accused me or anyone else of.

If you HAVE to group people, call us the, I dunno, Eaglefly/Thurstlever disagreers? Challengers? E/TC? Sure. Call me that.

Originally Posted by eaglefly

It doesn't work that way, my friend. You want consideration as a separate individual then the rock-throwers, then a ACT like a separate individual. I much prefer to discuss (and even disagree) about ISSUES, but cute little personal games like you play just like the others (and face it, you do) only result in similar personal response.

Your choice.

Originally Posted by snippercr

Shoot me a PM. I cant access it via your drop down (I can for all other people strangely) to send it first. We'll talk as individuals.

Can you admit you have never played a game? What about when you constantly called the user Cujo665 "Mason"?

Originally Posted by cr700

If eaglefly would take his nauseating opinions elsewhere, I could see this thread actually being productive. He doesn't even work here. I suggest putting him on ignore.

That said, as the union has already alluded to, expect to hear some good news soon. I've given numbers here before. The math works. All of you doubters should soon clearly see how the 6 year flow is working.