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04-22-2016, 11:00 AM
#2501
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 416
Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
All of this could happen just as much as you could flow in 6 years.
04-22-2016, 11:29 AM
#2502
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,137
Originally Posted by cr700
There aren't "other factors" that control flow rates. It's contractual. If hired today, the maximum wait to flow is 6 years. Realistically, you'll flow in 5 1/2.
04-22-2016, 11:48 AM
#2504
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 394
Originally Posted by FirstClass
You've got FO's on reserve for 4 years now.
Wrong. August '15 hires are holding lines in ORD. The shrinking and stagnation period is over, for now.
We've got issues here, schedules and reserve rules need to be improved, as a start. But it's a lot better now than it was last year. I expect that trend to continue as long as the shortage of pilots pressures management to value the employees they have more.
04-22-2016, 12:07 PM
#2505
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 687
Originally Posted by Shiner
Wrong. August '15 hires are holding lines in ORD. The shrinking and stagnation period is over, for now.
We've got issues here, schedules and reserve rules need to be improved, as a start. But it's a lot better now than it was last year. I expect that trend to continue as long as the shortage of pilots pressures management to value the employees they have more.
We've got issues here, schedules and reserve rules need to be improved, as a start. But it's a lot better now than it was last year. I expect that trend to continue as long as the shortage of pilots pressures management to value the employees they have more.
04-22-2016, 01:10 PM
#2506
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 501
Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
Agreed, and coming to envoy isn't for everyone. For those who live in or close to dfw/ord I think it's a good place to go. Quality of life when you're in or close to base is not bad at all but the further you live, the worse it is. All things considered it's not a bad place if you're young enough to wait out the flow.
Hell, I live in DFW and I'm based in ORD. It still isn't great until you sacrifice your personal life for x number of years until you can hold DFW. You can thank AAG for their personal choice regarding the matter.
04-22-2016, 01:41 PM
#2507
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by cr700
There aren't "other factors" that control flow rates. It's contractual. If hired today, the maximum wait to flow is 6 years. Realistically, you'll flow in 5 1/2.
The time frames you represent are simply present estimates and that is fact.
04-22-2016, 03:12 PM
#2508
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Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 598
Originally Posted by Shiner
Wrong. August '15 hires are holding lines in ORD. The shrinking and stagnation period is over, for now.
We've got issues here, schedules and reserve rules need to be improved, as a start. But it's a lot better now than it was last year. I expect that trend to continue as long as the shortage of pilots pressures management to value the employees they have more.
We've got issues here, schedules and reserve rules need to be improved, as a start. But it's a lot better now than it was last year. I expect that trend to continue as long as the shortage of pilots pressures management to value the employees they have more.
04-22-2016, 03:34 PM
#2510
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 416
Originally Posted by highflyer1980
Hell, I live in DFW and I'm based in ORD. It still isn't great until you sacrifice your personal life for x number of years until you can hold DFW. You can thank AAG for their personal choice regarding the matter.
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