New Envoy Information
06-27-2016, 06:37 AM
#3501
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Qualified to carry liquids through security.
Posts: 771
Originally Posted by ag386
Stockholm Syndrome. If you don't know anything else besides Envoy then sure, I can see you have the blinders on. Like the frog who is plopped into a lukewarm pot of water on the stove, he's fine. Someone comes by and turns up the heat and the frog actually adjusts to the temperature and gets comfortable. At some point it gets too late and the frog boils.
I have left Envoy and let me assure you there are FAR better opportunities out there. Open your eyes, apply and get out. See the flow for what it really is. A Ponzi scheme and a siren call to lure unsuspecting saps into the fold.
It's sad to see someone carrying management's water when they are directly responsible for the absolute worst working conditions ever at Envoy. Most likely, the worst in the regional industry.
I have left Envoy and let me assure you there are FAR better opportunities out there. Open your eyes, apply and get out. See the flow for what it really is. A Ponzi scheme and a siren call to lure unsuspecting saps into the fold.
It's sad to see someone carrying management's water when they are directly responsible for the absolute worst working conditions ever at Envoy. Most likely, the worst in the regional industry.
Maybe you should be more concerned for yourself and that new allegiant TA. If you are even over there...
06-27-2016, 06:44 AM
#3502
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 540
Originally Posted by N927EV
It's sad to see someone constantly post on their "past" employers forum. 250+ posts on dragging envoys name through the dirt? You're a sad, sad person. No one here is "carrying the company's water." Look at the past 10 pages; it's people posting what actually goes on at envoy. I haven't seen anyone reference the 2/6 year claim in a while, aside from you!
Maybe you should be more concerned for yourself and that new allegiant TA. If you are even over there...
Maybe you should be more concerned for yourself and that new allegiant TA. If you are even over there...
Or do you still only want to work for American Airlines?
06-27-2016, 06:55 AM
#3503
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Qualified to carry liquids through security.
Posts: 771
Originally Posted by ag386
It seems that when things go downhill at Envoy, you post over in the Spirit forum asking how long it takes to hold DFW. Perhaps you should consider trying to get off the pot and pull the trigger. There's no guarantee you'll be even selected for an interview, but if you don't try it's never going to happen and you just fall further behind in seniority.
Or do you still only want to work for American Airlines?
Or do you still only want to work for American Airlines?
06-27-2016, 07:01 AM
#3504
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,024
I wonder what is the agenda of all these "ex-eagle" guys towards us?
I wonder where they really work, and if they are just trying to lure people to their regionals?
Envoy has its faults and yes we've been beat for the last couple of years. But there are worst places to be.
I wonder where they really work, and if they are just trying to lure people to their regionals?
Envoy has its faults and yes we've been beat for the last couple of years. But there are worst places to be.
06-27-2016, 07:05 AM
#3505
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 39
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
I wonder what is the agenda of all these "ex-eagle" guys towards us?
I wonder where they really work, and if there's just trying to lure people to their regionals?
Envoy has its faults and yes we've been beat for the last couple of years. But there are worst places to be.
I wonder where they really work, and if there's just trying to lure people to their regionals?
Envoy has its faults and yes we've been beat for the last couple of years. But there are worst places to be.
06-27-2016, 07:07 AM
#3506
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 699
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
I wonder what is the agenda of all these "ex-eagle" guys towards us?
I wonder where they really work, and if there's just trying to lure people to their regionals?
Envoy has its faults and yes we've been beat for the last couple of years. But there are worst places to be.
I wonder where they really work, and if there's just trying to lure people to their regionals?
Envoy has its faults and yes we've been beat for the last couple of years. But there are worst places to be.
06-27-2016, 07:25 AM
#3507
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by lakehouse
I have almost a decade of post history, and I'm most certainly not management. This is also my only name on apc. I think there is some serious bad info being posted by ex employees. I'm not happy with alot of things at envoy, but it's not a bad place.
Could you elaborate with some specific examples of inaccurate information ? To be fair to Envoy, that should be identified and corrected. But remember, unflattering opinions that you disagree with aren't necessarily "bad" info. If you would like some reciprocal examples of truly "bad" (as in unsubstantiated by the facts) info from the other direction, including clearly chivalrous sales pitches loaded with embellishment, that is readily retrievable here too.
I don't work there anymore, but it's obvious that based on the information by many Envoy pilots on multiple pilot forums and in person, working there has deteriorated in most ways way beyond what it used to be. If it weren't for the carrot of the flow, my guess is attrition would be triple what it is.
06-27-2016, 07:34 AM
#3509
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by ag386
Stockholm Syndrome. If you don't know anything else besides Envoy then sure, I can see you have the blinders on. Like the frog who is plopped into a lukewarm pot of water on the stove, he's fine. Someone comes by and turns up the heat and the frog actually adjusts to the temperature and gets comfortable. At some point it gets too late and the frog boils.
I have left Envoy and let me assure you there are FAR better opportunities out there. Open your eyes, apply and get out. See the flow for what it really is. A Ponzi scheme and a siren call to lure unsuspecting saps into the fold.
It's sad to see someone carrying management's water when they are directly responsible for the absolute worst working conditions ever at Envoy. Most likely, the worst in the regional industry.
I have left Envoy and let me assure you there are FAR better opportunities out there. Open your eyes, apply and get out. See the flow for what it really is. A Ponzi scheme and a siren call to lure unsuspecting saps into the fold.
It's sad to see someone carrying management's water when they are directly responsible for the absolute worst working conditions ever at Envoy. Most likely, the worst in the regional industry.
06-27-2016, 08:09 AM
#3510
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Joined APC: Oct 2007
Posts: 194
Originally Posted by ag386
Stockholm Syndrome. If you don't know anything else besides Envoy then sure, I can see you have the blinders on. Like the frog who is plopped into a lukewarm pot of water on the stove, he's fine. Someone comes by and turns up the heat and the frog actually adjusts to the temperature and gets comfortable. At some point it gets too late and the frog boils.
I have left Envoy and let me assure you there are FAR better opportunities out there. Open your eyes, apply and get out. See the flow for what it really is. A Ponzi scheme and a siren call to lure unsuspecting saps into the fold.
It's sad to see someone carrying management's water when they are directly responsible for the absolute worst working conditions ever at Envoy. Most likely, the worst in the regional industry.
I have left Envoy and let me assure you there are FAR better opportunities out there. Open your eyes, apply and get out. See the flow for what it really is. A Ponzi scheme and a siren call to lure unsuspecting saps into the fold.
It's sad to see someone carrying management's water when they are directly responsible for the absolute worst working conditions ever at Envoy. Most likely, the worst in the regional industry.
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