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#3463
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the PP is outside the 824 arbitration award. The PP is a negotiated item in the CBA. Therefore it is open to violation by management at its whim as the rest of the contract. Whether in CH11 or not, it is a negotiated item, I do not even think the BK judge had to sign off on it either.
#3464
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the PP is outside the 824 arbitration award. The PP is a negotiated item in the CBA. Therefore it is open to violation by management at its whim as the rest of the contract. Whether in CH11 or not, it is a negotiated item, I do not even think the BK judge had to sign off on it either.
They question is when and then what is there next move.
#3466
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You should know. This thread is being used by only a couple people. 1 person acting as 4 people, and a few of us pointing out the bullthat 1/4 is saying.
Envoy should be one of the last choices for a new hire. ENY, PDT, AND PSA are the three worst regionals to work for. Picking which one is the the worst, well that just depends on what you want to be the criteria, they all are terrible.
Envoy should be one of the last choices for a new hire. ENY, PDT, AND PSA are the three worst regionals to work for. Picking which one is the the worst, well that just depends on what you want to be the criteria, they all are terrible.
#3467
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It's funny, there never is good said about ENY on the line and on forums. As soon as Envoy has to pick up hiring because they allow themselves to fall way behind, you get a couple of guys making ENY seem good. But even what they push is junk, they say it won't last long, you'll only be here 6 years. Yet magically if that 6 was true, you'd have a crappy six years.
STAY AWAY FROM ENVOY, the only cheerleaders on here are on recruitment, and small guy in management. Our union should let potential new hires listen in on conference calls, then they would get the real story on how bad things are here right now
STAY AWAY FROM ENVOY, the only cheerleaders on here are on recruitment, and small guy in management. Our union should let potential new hires listen in on conference calls, then they would get the real story on how bad things are here right now
#3468
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It's funny, there never is good said about ENY on the line and on forums. As soon as Envoy has to pick up hiring because they allow themselves to fall way behind, you get a couple of guys making ENY seem good. But even what they push is junk, they say it won't last long, you'll only be here 6 years. Yet magically if that 6 was true, you'd have a crappy six years.
STAY AWAY FROM ENVOY, the only cheerleaders on here are on recruitment, and small guy in management. Our union should let potential new hires listen in on conference calls, then they would get the real story on how bad things are here right now
STAY AWAY FROM ENVOY, the only cheerleaders on here are on recruitment, and small guy in management. Our union should let potential new hires listen in on conference calls, then they would get the real story on how bad things are here right now
Envoy works if you're brand new to the airlines and want to be based in Dfw, honestly. I think it's a better option than Mesa or xjt. But, other than that, you're kind of right.

#3470
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
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I agree with you agreeing with me. Xjt seems to be on a long, very slow, winding down. Mesa completely screwed up the golden egg AAG was trying to give it(our flying, when we kept telling AAG to pound sand).
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