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Old 07-18-2016, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GodIsGood View Post
We hired 11 on July 4th. We have a class of 11 starting tomorrow, the 18th.
And we very rarely have someone not show up for class.
Nope but they just walk out once they find out they can't have the shiny 175, unless you bribe them with more money. All the while, our union bends over and allows it all.

The 175 makes up a very small percentage of the fleet. Sooner or later you are going to have to stop circumventing the rules of seniority and stop screwing over our senior FOs - they will bid the 175 and close the hiring door. That or the union will keep being a bunch of weenies and allow you to continue hiring only to the 175, but even then, you can only take so many onto that plane because all of your flows and senior FOs getting ****ed and leaving are coming from the 145.

Not to worry, I'm sure the union will help you find a way to sucker in new hires while still hosing the senior people.
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
You'll note I said "some of you guys"........well, obviously, you didn't. .


You quoted me. You've lumped me into your conspiratorial groups on many occasions. Don't try to squirm out from under what you said, your point was obvious. As usual, you really don't answer the question, just more dodging and finger pointing.


By the way, there's a new hire class today. I don't know any numbers, though.
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by GodIsGood View Post
We hired 11 on July 4th. We have a class of 11 starting tomorrow, the 18th.
And we very rarely have someone not show up for class.
Sounds like a great time to be an Envoy pilot.

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Old 07-18-2016, 06:52 AM
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Reading this thread is quite entertaining. It's like watching a building implosion, but the demo crew is inside when they drop the plunger.
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Old 07-18-2016, 07:23 AM
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Are you not entertained?
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Old 07-18-2016, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader View Post
Nope but they just walk out once they find out they can't have the shiny 175, unless you bribe them with more money. All the while, our union bends over and allows it all.

The 175 makes up a very small percentage of the fleet. Sooner or later you are going to have to stop circumventing the rules of seniority and stop screwing over our senior FOs - they will bid the 175 and close the hiring door. That or the union will keep being a bunch of weenies and allow you to continue hiring only to the 175, but even then, you can only take so many onto that plane because all of your flows and senior FOs getting ****ed and leaving are coming from the 145.

Not to worry, I'm sure the union will help you find a way to sucker in new hires while still hosing the senior people.
How are senior FOs going to bid the 175? They aren't allowed to bid it, they can only displace into it.
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Old 07-18-2016, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary View Post
How are senior FOs going to bid the 175? They aren't allowed to bid it, they can only displace into it.
I don't think Sr FOs wants to bid the 175 of it means a seat lock. Most guys are just waiting for upgrade. Maybe 2014-2015 hires want the 175 for the better relative seniority.

The list will balance itself eventually, once the 175 FOs are stuck there until 2016 hires start upgrading. It's just a cycle...
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Old 07-18-2016, 08:45 AM
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According to a well known source that will be in less than 3 years!!!!
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Old 07-18-2016, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980 View Post
According to a well known source that will be in less than 3 years!!!!
Hahahahaha still 3 yrs the bottom guy in the 175 will be on RSV. Meanwhile the guys in the 145/CRJ will be moving up relatively in their equipment.

By then the guys in the 175 will be *****ing about it, same way the guys in the 145/CRJ are doing these days.
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Old 07-18-2016, 11:33 AM
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Just got a company message that they'll pick some more for the flow on the 22nd. Have any been put in an AA class this month yet? How many are left in the bank, 15?
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