New Envoy Information
07-16-2016 | 05:02 AM
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Reformatted. Was renamed more appropriately Envoy Lounge, but that was too traumatic for many of the pilots there in deep denial still convincing themselves they fly for American Eagle Airlines. Thankfully, it was changed back to Eaglelounge or Envoy would have lost a lot of pilots to complete and total emotional crack-ups further stressing their already deficient staffing.
I guess existing in that environment requires fantasy and denial simply to survive.
I guess existing in that environment requires fantasy and denial simply to survive.
07-16-2016 | 05:23 AM
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Reformatted. Was renamed more appropriately Envoy Lounge, but that was too traumatic for many of the pilots there in deep denial still convincing themselves they fly for American Eagle Airlines. Thankfully, it was changed back to Eaglelounge or Envoy would have lost a lot of pilots to complete and total emotional crack-ups further stressing their already deficient staffing.
I guess existing in that environment requires fantasy and denial simply to survive.
I guess existing in that environment requires fantasy and denial simply to survive.
07-16-2016 | 05:24 AM
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Reformatted. Was renamed more appropriately Envoy Lounge, but that was too traumatic for many of the pilots there in deep denial still convincing themselves they fly for American Eagle Airlines. Thankfully, it was changed back to Eaglelounge or Envoy would have lost a lot of pilots to complete and total emotional crack-ups further stressing their already deficient staffing.
I guess existing in that environment requires fantasy and denial simply to survive.
I guess existing in that environment requires fantasy and denial simply to survive.
07-16-2016 | 05:43 AM
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The reformatting is bad, it is not user friendly and hard to look at and navigate. It looks so second rate now. Hope they know if they don't change it they are going to lose a lot of subscribers. I like using it, but not it is to much work just to read what is new and to navigate to the most recent post. Not worth my time and money anymore. Thanks Skytow for forcing me out of the forum world, much appreciated.
07-16-2016 | 05:48 AM
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Actually, I find it quite accurate when compared to the present Envoy pilots I talk to in passing and those that have recently left. I DO understand that doesn't serve your interests well though, dude.
07-16-2016 | 06:06 AM
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Partially true, you ironically are a perfect example of your point. The only difference being the things you beotch about, that being anyone who upsets your warped view of Envoy reality.
Actually, I find it quite accurate when compared to the present Envoy pilots I talk to in passing and those that have recently left. I DO understand that doesn't serve your interests well though, dude.
Actually, I find it quite accurate when compared to the present Envoy pilots I talk to in passing and those that have recently left. I DO understand that doesn't serve your interests well though, dude.
So you're getting all your info second and third hand from current (most likely lifer) pilots and eagle lounge?! Wow you're such a great and reliable source!!
Hate to break it to you, but I have no agenda. When I leave this place in about 2 years I don't plan on looking back at all. While I'm here, however, I will defend the truth about what it's like over here to keep liars such as yourself from spouting off trash. You're the self proclaimed "scope 2020" salesman so it makes sense that your "interests" lie in keeping potential new-hires away from envoy by spewing out lies. Keepin' it classy as alway!
07-16-2016 | 06:19 AM
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Partially true, you ironically are a perfect example of your point. The only difference being the things you beotch about, that being anyone who upsets your warped view of Envoy reality.
Actually, I find it quite accurate when compared to the present Envoy pilots I talk to in passing and those that have recently left. I DO understand that doesn't serve your interests well though, dude.
Actually, I find it quite accurate when compared to the present Envoy pilots I talk to in passing and those that have recently left. I DO understand that doesn't serve your interests well though, dude.
Hopefully, this ability to see through rose colored glasses doesn't extend to the cockpit where an Envoy crew who believes that the flow after the 824 is "rock solid" doesn't see through the same rose colored glasses when a true emergency arises.
07-16-2016 | 07:13 AM
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It certainly calls into question the decision making ability of future and current Envoy Captains who are so blind to the situation they are in.
Hopefully, this ability to see through rose colored glasses doesn't extend to the cockpit where an Envoy crew who believes that the flow after the 824 is "rock solid" doesn't see through the same rose colored glasses when a true emergency arises.
Hopefully, this ability to see through rose colored glasses doesn't extend to the cockpit where an Envoy crew who believes that the flow after the 824 is "rock solid" doesn't see through the same rose colored glasses when a true emergency arises.
Ahhhh Hahahaha did you (as an FO who has never been Captain and who "supposedly" went to an airline with one of the worst safety reputations in the country) just question my decision making skills as a Captain because I look at my career as a marathon and not a sprint? Or question them because I choose to highlight both the pluses and minuses of envoy (as a current employee) rather then bash it like our former employees do? That's rich. Real rich. Try again.
07-16-2016 | 07:47 AM
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My warped view of envoy? I have as clear a view as any. Especially as a reserve Captain. With all due respect I would take my "warped" view and opinions over yours any day.
So you're getting all your info second and third hand from current (most likely lifer) pilots and eagle lounge?! Wow you're such a great and reliable source!!
Hate to break it to you, but I have no agenda. When I leave this place in about 2 years I don't plan on looking back at all. While I'm here, however, I will defend the truth about what it's like over here to keep liars such as yourself from spouting off trash. You're the self proclaimed "scope 2020" salesman so it makes sense that your "interests" lie in keeping potential new-hires away from envoy by spewing out lies. Keepin' it classy as alway!
So you're getting all your info second and third hand from current (most likely lifer) pilots and eagle lounge?! Wow you're such a great and reliable source!!
Hate to break it to you, but I have no agenda. When I leave this place in about 2 years I don't plan on looking back at all. While I'm here, however, I will defend the truth about what it's like over here to keep liars such as yourself from spouting off trash. You're the self proclaimed "scope 2020" salesman so it makes sense that your "interests" lie in keeping potential new-hires away from envoy by spewing out lies. Keepin' it classy as alway!
Truth and altruism are nowhere to be found. Before you discharge more gas here claiming X and Y, spare yourself the trouble as nothing you say will change my opinion and my old "Scope salesman" moniker has nothing to do with Envoy and I explained that in the past. It's related to my present "Independent Contractor" badge, both of which are obviously WAY over your head.
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