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08-18-2016, 01:41 PM
#4511
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
Posts: 833
Originally Posted by E175 Driver
Its gonna happen one way or the other if guys keep abusing sick time!
When lines are not commutable, have only a day or two off between 3 and/or 4 day trips strung 3 or 4 in a row people are going to get burned out. If you're on one of those lines it's going to result in being home only 1-2 nights between trips over 16 days.
I haven't heard of anyone getting drops approved, either.
So you get your butt worked off for 11-13 days off, much of which has a big possibility of being non-commutable, and get paid 72-75 hours.
I'm looking at the bid pack and see a 5 trip line with 2 days off between each trip and every trip either starts around 0800 or has a finish after 2100. I can't think of any legal way to commute for that off the top of my head without losing a day off to commute in early, and even a local would get burned out after a while doing this schedule.
So yeah, people are going to call in sick because they're tired. Literally. There's no time to recover. I guess it's cheaper to fire people than to fix the schedules. Just my opinion.
08-18-2016, 08:56 PM
#4512
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 394
Originally Posted by Jack Russell
I assume you've gone through life snapping your fingers with the expectation others will jump to appease you. Sorry, but not this time. I'd rather you think I am your eaglefly and watch you twist yourself into a knot over it then tell you something you may or may not believe anyway.
I'm trying my best to avoid the wrath of the mods and you and I don't play well, so why don't we stick to our own sides of the street by avoiding direct interaction from now on. I'm game, how about you ?
I'm trying my best to avoid the wrath of the mods and you and I don't play well, so why don't we stick to our own sides of the street by avoiding direct interaction from now on. I'm game, how about you ?
That's definitely something eaglefly would say.
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08-19-2016, 06:05 AM
#4513
On the 1st tee
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 85
[QUOTE=Jack Russell;2183212]I assume you've gone through life snapping your fingers with the expectation others will jump to appease you. Sorry, but not this time. I'd rather you think I am your eaglefly and watch you twist yourself into a knot over it then tell you something you may or may not believe anyway.
I'm trying my best to avoid the wrath of the mods and you and I don't play well, so why don't we stick to our own sides of the street by avoiding direct interaction from now on. I'm game, how about you ?[/QUOTE
Why would someone who just joined APC last month with 70 posts be fearing the "wrath of the mods" already?
I'm trying my best to avoid the wrath of the mods and you and I don't play well, so why don't we stick to our own sides of the street by avoiding direct interaction from now on. I'm game, how about you ?[/QUOTE
Why would someone who just joined APC last month with 70 posts be fearing the "wrath of the mods" already?
08-19-2016, 06:31 AM
#4515
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 540
[QUOTE=Enginethunder;2183689]
Hey, it's the guy with 7 posts "who isn't even in aviation who just stopped by this particular forum" following what's going on here.
Or, maybe it's Skyvector, go skers and CR700 all wrapped into one.
Originally Posted by Jack Russell
I assume you've gone through life snapping your fingers with the expectation others will jump to appease you. Sorry, but not this time. I'd rather you think I am your eaglefly and watch you twist yourself into a knot over it then tell you something you may or may not believe anyway.
I'm trying my best to avoid the wrath of the mods and you and I don't play well, so why don't we stick to our own sides of the street by avoiding direct interaction from now on. I'm game, how about you ?[/QUOTE
Why would someone who just joined APC last month with 70 posts be fearing the "wrath of the mods" already?
I'm trying my best to avoid the wrath of the mods and you and I don't play well, so why don't we stick to our own sides of the street by avoiding direct interaction from now on. I'm game, how about you ?[/QUOTE
Why would someone who just joined APC last month with 70 posts be fearing the "wrath of the mods" already?
Or, maybe it's Skyvector, go skers and CR700 all wrapped into one.
08-19-2016, 10:50 AM
#4516
On the 1st tee
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 85
[QUOTE=ag386;2183702]
Hey, it's the guy with 7 posts "who isn't even in aviation who just stopped by this particular forum" following what's going on here.
Or, maybe it's Skyvector, go skers and CR700 all wrapped into one.
Having an issue? Can I get you a tissue?
There is no crying in aviation!
Originally Posted by Enginethunder
Hey, it's the guy with 7 posts "who isn't even in aviation who just stopped by this particular forum" following what's going on here.
Or, maybe it's Skyvector, go skers and CR700 all wrapped into one.
There is no crying in aviation!
08-19-2016, 11:47 AM
#4519
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: middle seat in the back
Posts: 232
Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
When lines are not commutable, have only a day or two off between 3 and/or 4 day trips strung 3 or 4 in a row people are going to get burned out. If you're on one of those lines it's going to result in being home only 1-2 nights between trips over 16 days.
I haven't heard of anyone getting drops approved, either.
So you get your butt worked off for 11-13 days off, much of which has a big possibility of being non-commutable, and get paid 72-75 hours.
I'm looking at the bid pack and see a 5 trip line with 2 days off between each trip and every trip either starts around 0800 or has a finish after 2100. I can't think of any legal way to commute for that off the top of my head without losing a day off to commute in early, and even a local would get burned out after a while doing this schedule.
So yeah, people are going to call in sick because they're tired. Literally. There's no time to recover. I guess it's cheaper to fire people than to fix the schedules. Just my opinion.
I haven't heard of anyone getting drops approved, either.
So you get your butt worked off for 11-13 days off, much of which has a big possibility of being non-commutable, and get paid 72-75 hours.
I'm looking at the bid pack and see a 5 trip line with 2 days off between each trip and every trip either starts around 0800 or has a finish after 2100. I can't think of any legal way to commute for that off the top of my head without losing a day off to commute in early, and even a local would get burned out after a while doing this schedule.
So yeah, people are going to call in sick because they're tired. Literally. There's no time to recover. I guess it's cheaper to fire people than to fix the schedules. Just my opinion.
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