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08-16-2016 | 10:40 AM
#4552
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ORD isn't shutting down if that's what your worried about. To answer your question, and cr700 already alluded to this, all things indicate the vacancy bid was AA calling Republic's bluff.
The whole thing stunk from the start. The E175 ORD vacancy dropped out of the sky..none of us had any indication it was coming. And then silence...it was weird and I was always suspicious of something going on, I just didn't know what.
I still don't have any concrete evidence, but it would appear that Republic was needing AA to pay them more due to their increased costs and AA didn't want to..as we suspected would happen. Republic wouldnt budge, so AA doubled down and indicated to them that they would just have Envoy replace them in ORD with 20 E175s initially.
Apparently that's when Republic caved and AA withdrew the vacancy. It was a bargaining chip from the beginning.
The whole thing stunk from the start. The E175 ORD vacancy dropped out of the sky..none of us had any indication it was coming. And then silence...it was weird and I was always suspicious of something going on, I just didn't know what.
I still don't have any concrete evidence, but it would appear that Republic was needing AA to pay them more due to their increased costs and AA didn't want to..as we suspected would happen. Republic wouldnt budge, so AA doubled down and indicated to them that they would just have Envoy replace them in ORD with 20 E175s initially.
Apparently that's when Republic caved and AA withdrew the vacancy. It was a bargaining chip from the beginning.
Why do you guys work for that scummy airline?
08-16-2016 | 10:52 AM
#4554
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Because they sign my paycheck and are providing me a pretty damn good future. Am I supposed to quit over morality? Haha, get real man.
08-16-2016 | 10:59 AM
#4555
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I still don't have any concrete evidence, but it would appear that Republic was needing AA to pay them more due to their increased costs and AA didn't want to..as we suspected would happen. Republic wouldnt budge, so AA doubled down and indicated to them that they would just have Envoy replace them in ORD with 20 E175s initially.
Apparently that's when Republic caved and AA withdrew the vacancy. It was a bargaining chip from the beginning.
08-16-2016 | 11:21 AM
#4556
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Actually its the other way. Keeping the e175 in Dallas to fly through mia. That's the poker game being played. Slightly biased, but with the shortage of pilots, higher fees paid by delta an united with expanded 175 flying at delta and united, the aa feed contract is costing rah money. While in bk they can get out of deal with as use those pilots for the expanded high fee pay delta and united flying.
AAG is same us air pig just with a different shade of lipstick.
AAG is same us air pig just with a different shade of lipstick.
08-16-2016 | 12:56 PM
#4557
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Used by AAG. Who the hell knows if ENY higher ups were even made privy to being used as a bargaining chip. All of that stuff is AAG driven.
08-16-2016 | 03:10 PM
#4558
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Joined: Mar 2016
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From: A320 FO
Actually its the other way. Keeping the e175 in Dallas to fly through mia. That's the poker game being played. Slightly biased, but with the shortage of pilots, higher fees paid by delta an united with expanded 175 flying at delta and united, the aa feed contract is costing rah money. While in bk they can get out of deal with as use those pilots for the expanded high fee pay delta and united flying.
AAG is same us air pig just with a different shade of lipstick.
AAG is same us air pig just with a different shade of lipstick.
08-16-2016 | 06:15 PM
#4559
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From: Violin on the Envoy-tanic
08-16-2016 | 06:27 PM
#4560
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At senior FO pay you would need about 120 hours of OT to clear another ten grand which would get around 70k. Subtract some of those hours due to junior man and extension pay and figure about 100 hours of 200% OT in the year. That's a lot.
Maybe lakehouse can give us the breakdown. Perhaps a referral bonus or two maybe? I could be missing something.
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