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08-18-2016 | 05:50 AM
#4571
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All pilots get priority on their own metal. Now the tricky part is when one tries to jumpseat on an Eagle flight operated by someone other than envoy. Each has their own rules on it but safe to say it's usually the first one to the gate to check in.
08-18-2016 | 06:02 AM
#4572
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From: Pawn
Thanks. I had heard that the DFW flights from my city would be going to Envoy, which would help commuting all the more. From what I have been told, most of the commuters are ORD based, and there aren't too many DFW guys. Whatever advantage I can get when it comes to getting to work is helpful.
08-18-2016 | 06:09 AM
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From: E175
Thanks. I had heard that the DFW flights from my city would be going to Envoy, which would help commuting all the more. From what I have been told, most of the commuters are ORD based, and there aren't too many DFW guys. Whatever advantage I can get when it comes to getting to work is helpful.
08-18-2016 | 06:28 AM
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From: Pawn
It looks like it. The proximity of ORD would be nice, but the eternal reserve of the ERJ and CRJ would suck. At least if I take the 175, then I will be on property when #'s 5 & 6 show up of the second batch. I would hold a line quicker, and have a better QOL. I really don't care what I fly, but the 175 looks like it will make my home life a bit better in the long run.
08-18-2016 | 06:49 AM
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From: E175
It looks like it. The proximity of ORD would be nice, but the eternal reserve of the ERJ and CRJ would suck. At least if I take the 175, then I will be on property when #'s 5 & 6 show up of the second batch. I would hold a line quicker, and have a better QOL. I really don't care what I fly, but the 175 looks like it will make my home life a bit better in the long run.
Just the way it is I guess.
08-18-2016 | 07:20 AM
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That's what happens when Association officers allow the concept of seniority to be subverted. Not many airlines allow more junior pilots dibs on the best equipment and schedules and even pay and like it or not, that is the end result of the concepts in play. Unfortunately, the same officers don't want to rock any boats and jeopardize their own magic carpet ride to AA and so it goes. Just remember though in the future when certain situations are presented, that same dynamic will remain in play and you may be caught up in the swirl of the next flush.
08-18-2016 | 07:32 AM
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From: Pawn
That's what happens when Association officers allow the concept of seniority to be subverted. Not many airlines allow more junior pilots dibs on the best equipment and schedules and even pay and like it or not, that is the end result of the concepts in play. Unfortunately, the same officers don't want to rock any boats and jeopardize their own magic carpet ride to AA and so it goes. Just remember though in the future when certain situations are presented, that same dynamic will remain in play and you may be caught up in the swirl of the next flush.
08-18-2016 | 07:38 AM
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I get why other first officers would be hostile, and that the very same thing could happen to me. I fully expect to be pushed down the list via displacement as the CRJ leaves the fleet. I can't argue with past negotiations or policy implementation because I didn't have a dog in the fight. I just want to fly and have the best QOL that I can hope for.
Notice that AAG keeps moving the CRJ transfer date to PSA further into the future. They are exceptionally good at "kicking the can." In other words, just address the problem right in front of us and not try and find a long term solution. If you go to Envoy, there is a very good chance you won't be displaced due to this.
08-18-2016 | 09:01 AM
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08-18-2016 | 11:27 AM
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Dear Envoy posters,
This is my annual checkup. How's that 2.5 upgrade / 6 yr flow working? That was mentioned exactly 1.5 years ago. So according to your devine wisdom they should be a year away from upgrade!! How far did that fall from the truth...
This is my annual checkup. How's that 2.5 upgrade / 6 yr flow working? That was mentioned exactly 1.5 years ago. So according to your devine wisdom they should be a year away from upgrade!! How far did that fall from the truth...
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