New Envoy Information
08-20-2016, 07:08 AM
#4531
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Originally Posted by egl2fdx
Department of Labor is involved with the FMLA issue, WHL investigation opened. Doesn't look good for Envoy.
Awesome! I'm rooting for the pilot on this, however, I'm sure the corporation will not learn from this. Evidently they didn't get a good grade on corporate ethics 101.
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08-20-2016, 09:33 AM
#4532
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Originally Posted by Blueyawnder
Any E175 guys know how long training is currently (from day 1 to the start of IOE). Any training backlogs?
08-20-2016, 12:40 PM
#4534
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Does that include time spent sleeping at an overnight? That's a bit unrealistic unless you expect an all day-trip schedule. I agree we spend too much time away for too little pay due to inefficient schedules, but I think your number doesn't paint a clear or realistic picture.
08-20-2016, 01:02 PM
#4535
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Originally Posted by egl2fdx
Just heard from a pilot at Envoy that for every hour you work there, you spend on average 4.66 hours away from home unpaid. This is advice to keep your options open if you're looking at going there.
08-20-2016, 01:33 PM
#4536
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Originally Posted by Name User
My regional had a 4:1 trip rig which meant at minimum getting paid one hour for every four spent away from home. Almost all trips exceeded that amount. For example a 74 hour time away from base (TAFB) would pay at minimum 18.5 hours. I don't know if Envoy has that trip rig or not in their contract. Most four days are going to pay 20-23 hours.
08-20-2016, 01:40 PM
#4537
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Inefficient schedules + low staffing = things fall apart too easily. Yet we kept accepting flying that created the problem, and the schedules are bad enough that some people can't wait to leave ENY at their first opportunity, thereby worsening the staffing problem.
08-20-2016, 02:18 PM
#4538
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Originally Posted by egl2fdx
Just heard from a pilot at Envoy that for every hour you work there, you spend on average 4.66 hours away from home unpaid. This is advice to keep your options open if you're looking at going there.
It's not unpaid. It's not paid enough. Here's the said email they were referring to:
August 20, 2016
Pilots,
Below is a breakdown for September and how it compares to the rest of the year.
The time away from base (TAFB) per hour of pay was 4.66 in September. This means that on average we spend 4.66 hours away from home for every hour of pay. In August, that number was 4.2. We continue to head in the wrong direction even as the line values have increased. For example, in January that ratio was 4.43 and trended down to a “low” of 4.12 in Apr, and stayed close at 4.17 through June. Average line values over the course of the year are relatively flat on the CRJ, up around 7 hours for ORD 145, and up 13 hours for the 145 in DFW.
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08-21-2016, 08:11 AM
#4539
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That email also has April '16 hires holding lines on the 175. It's pretty bleak for anyone on the CRJ and 145, but the newbies aren't experiencing the pain of the schedules/staffing situation as much as the more senior pilots are.
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08-21-2016, 08:54 AM
#4540
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Originally Posted by Shiner
That email also has April '16 hires holding lines on the 175. It's pretty bleak for anyone on the CRJ and 145, but the newbies aren't experiencing the pain of the schedules/staffing situation as much as the more senior pilots are.
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Didn't a majority of 175 lines only have 2 days off in between?
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