eaglefly

You know what can be explained ?

You guys.

You come on this forum SELLING this airline to others based on claims you know or suspect are inflated and why ?

To grease the rails of your own exit.

None of you guys plan on staying at Envoy one microsecond longer then necessary, so your feigned "devotion" to Envoy is a facade. The smoke plume even admits to being an 824. Your sole reason for coming here and selling B.S. until it was obvious it couldn't be sold anymore, is concern for YOURSELVES. You couldn't care less about the hapless suckers you lure in to suck eggs in your wake there once you've flown the coop to AA and you know it. I argue that between us, it is I that care more about pilots in general then you, for I am not here trying to pad my career on their carcasses, but instead offering another POV for them to consider regarding not only Envoy, but the motives of dubious hucksters who are so worried about their own skin, they'd screw anyone and everyone to fluff it with a little more cushion.

You guys are nothing but a fraud and it enrages you when others here call you out on it. Get used to it, because as long as fraudsters exist, there will be those who seek to expose them. Sadly, the AA pilot cadre will be inheriting characters like you and only become weaker with the arrival of each one. As a side note, it must be maddening to come to the conclusion you're destined to become the same "loser" you frequently attack me as being, that being one who couldn't get hired anywhere and had to flow to make a legacy.

The only difference between us, is that I didn't attempt to throw other pilots under the bus to get where I got, while you jackals can make no such claim. Keep howling, but your fur isn't fluffy enough to hide your true fangs and most here can see that IMO.

eaglefly

Yup. If it wasn't for baseless personal attack against me by the usual suspects, it would be 10 at most. That's all they do, whether I'm posting or not.

eaglefly

We agree. If about a half dozen off you would put me on ignore, I wouldn't waste time responding. In fact, why don't you demonstrate some leadership and be the first among you to do just that.

No, you won't just like the other jackals as the goal isn't to ignore me, but to silence me and others who express disagreement with your goals and motives. Censorship and domination is your goal here and you know it. You're all the same.

Jackals.

highflyer1980

And I clearly work here, and I don't see people wanting to work here when our contract is violated every day with preassigned RAPs, poor FO pay, 70% still forced to commute, and an airline that will inevitably shrink once the CRJs leave. Sorry, but I as well as many others here still don't have faith in the leadership. The CRJ announcement is a false hope. They will STILL be going to PSA.

FlameNSky

An ironic accusation. If your peers respected and liked you, you wouldn't be here trying to elevate your perceived position as an ALL KNOWING savant. You claim that your "ideas" are attacked but you don't have ideas, you have a singular agenda that you push, repeatedly, over and over again.


I'm cool with it though. You will always be here for our entertainment. You are our AA Flowthrough Clown.

ag386

While you sir serve as the resident Envoy clown and propaganda mouthpiece. Who believes:

AAG does what they say they are going to do
2.5/6
Envoy is The premiere regional
Envoy has a great contract
Envoy pilots are the best in the world
AAG uses Envoy to fly into ASE because they need experienced pros doing this flying

boiler07

Apparently there is a limit to the number of eye roll emojis. I would add more if I could.

Smutter

So let's PRETEND your numbers work. What about the rest of the problems.
- Reserve is a nightmare, and a violation(I'm not on reserve, so I'll let others have at that)
- Pay is low
- Schedules are weak as they can get (most low days off)
- You like 4 hour sits, good we have them
- No commutable schedules (with 12 days off on most schedules, and having to come in the night before, and go home the day after a 4 day) sorry I can cover crash pad/hotel we want to sleep in our own beds more then 7 days a month
- Payroll has missed on the last 7 months of my end of the month check(that's actually pretty good, compared to some)
- Constant threat of instability
- Punitive actions for not accepting an extension
- Punitive actions for sick calls
- Half the company on reserve, and the operations are so bad we actually use most of them on a daily basis
- The overdue vacancy, the upgrades won't finish till October, so if another vacant comes out in may then that is it for the year. We will not meet our numbers

That's enough, others can extend this

Smutter

If I was new to the industry I would choose the following airlines.

Compass
Endeavor
Skywest
Commutair(has to be better then any of the following)
Piedmont
PSA
Mesa
Envoy(I've said it before, Envoy is the new Mesa)
Hell wait a year, and republic will be Jr. And hiring like crazy

I would choose XJT/ASA but don't even have a Luke warm feeling about them.

Does anyone really choose TSA and Go jets anymore, or have they given up trying

eaglefly

My "ideas" ?

There you go babbling about irrelevancies again as I don't think I've ever used that description regarding describing the realities of your scam. This is in addition to the absurdity of claiming knowledge about what my "peers" might think of me. My agenda if there is one is to expose the con game that is your agenda. I'm cool with being thought of as a clown by those with so little ethical character, just as normal people wouldn't be uncomfortable if ridiculed by members of the Manson family. It would disturb me more if you actually respected me and thank god you don't.

But, considering the circus you belong to, perhaps being considered a clown is appropriate for seeing your cotton candy existence and communicating that to others. Enjoy next months schedule at the circus, my fellow performer.