AdiosMikeFox

I guess your reference was toward cr700 and GiG? Otherwise I missed the [/sarcasm].

I guess I should also note that the extra pilots may be to front load the flow a little in expectation of letter T pilots.

ag386

You are correct sir. I have stated in previous posts that today: flow is 16 years 2 months or whatever. CR, GiG or Skyvector don't waste any time telling me how I'm "twisting the facts."

Iowa Farm Boy

Your attempt at proving other's ignorance has again shown your own. Were you too lazy to verify or just conveniently overlooking facts to further your agenda (again)?

HardLemonade

Do YOU know how many people will upgrade on the next bid? No? Then stick your sarcasm where the sun don't shine. I've watched you and a few other current envoy pilots post here for a while and it's exhausting.

All you do is complain, complain, and complain like a little child. Tell you what! You think things are so bad? QUIT! Put up or shut up! Everyone is hiring!

Even better...go take my old job at Mesa! Yeah, please...go to Mesa. You will come running back to envoy after about 1 month with an entirely new perspective on life. Envoy isn't my first airline, not my first regional and I can tell you how much better things are around here. Even before the recent wave of good news and good trends. But all you and a few others can do is look for the negative under every little pebble.

And before you say it, I may be new to Envoy but I'm not new to the airlines...and I'm certainly not new to working indirectly with Doug Parker. So far all my flying was under US Airways Express over at Mesa. You want a disaster of epic proportions? Go turn in your badge tomorrow, resign and get hired at Mesa. They will hire you over the phone...that is true. Go take a peek at how things work at other regionals and you will have a new profound appreciation for envoy and maybe cut out the pre-school crying.

HardLemonade

You're twisting the facts...I'll tell you straight up. You know it, I know it, everyone here knows it. But nobody cares what you think. Your entire history is questionable and now you work for an airline that makes Spirit look like Pan Am in it's golden years. You are a fool and a con artist...I'll say it and don't care.

ag386

Riddle me this then Batman. How do you "twist a fact?" It is what it is. Can't be twisted. Thus your fact is.......today.....your flow is 16 years 4 months.

Enjoy your next 15 at the "crown jewel" of regionals.

HardLemonade

Riddle me this, Robin: Are people jumping in a time machine and being hired in 1999? Or are they being hired in 2016? It' about how many people are above you and how many flow per month...

You know this but choose to TWIST THE FACTS over and over. Con artist and a fool is what you are. And don't worry...any Regional is a crown jewel compared to where you are.

ag386

Well, apparently you're "all in" and buying the sales job they've put on you. I can say that in this case then Batman, the Joker has pulled one on you.

Iowa Farm Boy

I have no idea nor have any information available re: how many bids will come or how many Capt vacancies. THAT information is not available to you, I, or him.

What IS available is a seniority list and a calculator. They were obviously not used prior to his post.

I'm not "dissing" Envoy. I've spent 16+ yrs here trying to make it the best it could be. What I AM dissing is the people who intentionally misrepresent facts to further their own self serving agenda. So long as <reasonable> assumptions are put forth, you'll hear little out of me...

Since you're not "new" to the airlines you likely could see through the smoke. Others who ARE new to the industry don't have that experience and could be sucked in by half truths. I just don't think that's fair to them.

Comparing Envoy to Mesa and saying how good we've got it? We already have a certain manager hired from there who seems hell bent to take us in that direction. No, thanks. Too many people have worked too hard here through the years to make EGL/ ENY the BEST it can be. Evidently you agree, so why don't you pick up the baton?

AdiosMikeFox

Apparently my comment is being construed as a basis for our flow's projected performance in a linear manner.

Like any stock, past performance should not be used to predict future gains.

Our flow is currently at 16 years, 4 months. That is undeniable.


It will change. It will drop. That too, is undeniable.

The only debate is whether it will make it to the advertised 2.5/5.