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Old 03-20-2016, 07:33 PM
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Latest reports from Envoy pilots are that F/O's with 4.5-5 years cannot hold a line and are on reserve. Charlie Bucket still seems to have a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong road ahead to glory.
Doesn't that say to you that there is still some serious overstaffing going on?
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Old 03-20-2016, 07:52 PM
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Latest reports from Envoy pilots are that F/O's with 4.5-5 years cannot hold a line and are on reserve. Charlie Bucket still seems to have a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong road ahead to chocolate covered glory.
What hasn't been reported is reserve on the CRJ. It's only 8-9 months. And the E-175 now going to new hires is projected to be shorter than that.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg View Post
Doesn't that say to you that there is still some serious overstaffing going on?
Which makes withholding flows all the more ominous regarding the future as Envoy shrinks clogging upgrades and further gluing up the flow.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
Latest reports from Envoy pilots are that F/O's with 4.5-5 years cannot hold a line and are on reserve. Charlie Bucket still seems to have a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong road ahead to chocolate covered glory.
Not being able to have a line and choosing reserve are two different things.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:04 PM
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What hasn't been reported is reserve on the CRJ. It's only 8-9 months. And the E-175 now going to new hires is projected to be shorter than that.
Even worse since pilots can't transfer between planes meaning senior pilots will be trapped in reserve when more junior hold hard schedules.

What a mess.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:06 PM
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Not being able to have a line and choosing reserve are two different things.
But again, since F/O's cannot transfer between planes, the seniority system is worthless there.

Nothing enticing about a broken seniority system for any pilot, new or not. Sounds like a very helpless feeling to me.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
Even worse since pilots can't transfer between planes meaning senior pilots will be trapped in reserve when more junior hold hard schedules.

What a mess.
Your gleefulness is very off-putting.
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
Even worse since pilots can't transfer between planes meaning senior pilots will be trapped in reserve when more junior hold hard schedules.

What a mess.
Jeez man, get a life. 90% of your posts are for a company you have no attachment to whatsoever. Whether or not envoy lives up to the hopes and expectations that it's current pilots have for it, shouldn't matter to you. You clearly have all this time on you hands to post on APC, so why is it all spent on the envoy thread? Serious question.
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Old 03-20-2016, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GodIsGood View Post
What hasn't been reported is reserve on the CRJ. It's only 8-9 months. And the E-175 now going to new hires is projected to be shorter than that.
Well isn't that just fantastic. What about the 100 Plus FOs that are Dallas based, been here for 3+years, some almost 5, and can't hold a line???
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Old 03-21-2016, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84 View Post
Jeez man, get a life. 90% of your posts are for a company you have no attachment to whatsoever. Whether or not envoy lives up to the hopes and expectations that it's current pilots have for it, shouldn't matter to you. You clearly have all this time on you hands to post on APC, so why is it all spent on the envoy thread? Serious question.
Serious answer : Your point here is irrelevant to the discussion.

We are all here for entertainment and none of us holds dominion on why others post wherever. Probably a good idea for you to accept that and move on. Some come here for dubious purposes to take advantage of others and some come here for the opposite. That's life.
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