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Old 01-21-2016, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ju10489 View Post
Is Envoy providing new uniforms?
Yep, %100.
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Old 01-27-2016, 05:27 AM
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So, anyone out there get their W2's? lol. This is the longest I have ever waited for it.
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Old 01-27-2016, 07:21 AM
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So, anyone out there get their W2's? lol. This is the longest I have ever waited for it.
They must be provided by the 31st.
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Old 01-27-2016, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by snippercr View Post
They must be provided by the 31st.
Oh I know and I know the allowances that allow them to go out after. Just stating that this is the longest I have ever waited for it to be sent out.
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Old 01-27-2016, 02:21 PM
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From Der Fuhrer Rik:

American projects that it will need close to 300 pilots from Envoy this year, with a requirement of 120 pilots within the first 120 days. This flow-through, coupled with our recent announcements of additional flying for American that will keep our total fleet count stable for 2016, means more than 200 Captain upgrade opportunities at Envoy and 350 pilot new hires. In fact, a pilot joining Envoy today is currently projected to upgrade to Captain in two and a half years – and flow to American in a little over five years from hire.
The flow that isn't working has sent 30 this month, and you can see the expectation for more.

2.5 and 6? I dunno. But things are starting to move.
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Old 01-27-2016, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy View Post
One of our revolving door of Chief Pilots noticed me still wearing my Eagle Wings and said:

"I see you're still wearing your Eagle Wings and Tie?"

Me: "yep."

Him: "Were you issued new Envoy stuff?"

Me: "yep."

Him: "Can I ask you to wear them?"

Me: "yep."

We stared at each other for a couple seconds and he knew what I meant.

I'll wear my Eagle Wings for four more months, and put them away so my grandkids can find them some day. A part of my life that while I'm proud of our group and what we did, I don't want to live it again.
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Old 01-27-2016, 05:23 PM
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Not badass at all.

Not Envoy either.
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox View Post
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The flow that isn't working has sent 30 this month, and you can see the expectation for more.

2.5 and 6? I dunno. But things are starting to move.
It'd be easier to get to that 2.5 and 6 if they flowed an actual 50%, 30 out of 70 in February.
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Old 01-27-2016, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox View Post
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The flow that isn't working has sent 30 this month, and you can see the expectation for more.

2.5 and 6? I dunno. But things are starting to move.
Disappointment is setting in at Envoy according to the vibe on EL. A consistant 30/month has been previously claimed and hoped for or 360/year, yet now we're down to "close to 300" which is at least a 20% reduction in the assumed flow rate. That means many of the months this year will be substantially less then 30. The upgrade forecast is still the same requiring upwards of 70% of present F/O's (perhaps 700) to upgrade in an 18 month period which is still a pipe dream.

Things aren't moving any faster then months ago for upgrades and for flows, this latest blast indicates it too will slow from present.
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It'd be easier to get to that 2.5 and 6 if they flowed an actual 50%, 30 out of 70 in February.
Word is they're withholding while overstaffed with zero-time lines. Couple that with continuing to claim an upgrade that can only be described as unrealistic considering the number of F/O's that would have to upgrade in the 18 months past 2016 should be a red flag.
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