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Old 01-19-2016 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
Bear in mind, there were large hiring gaps, so those hire vs. flow dates can be misleading, at least for the next year or two.
09/2001
01/2004

^Example #1 on our list of hire dates of 2 guys back to back on the list.
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Old 01-19-2016 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyWago
09/2001
01/2004

^Example #1 on our list of hire dates of 2 guys back to back on the list.
Then

5/2008 to 4/2010
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Old 01-19-2016 | 07:26 AM
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Thanks for backing m3 up fellas. Knew it to be true but don't have access to the list. That's over 6 years of flow in a couple of blinks of an eye.

Here's hoping the flow doesn't stop after the 824. You guys deserve a break!
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Old 01-19-2016 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
Thanks for backing m3 up fellas. Knew it to be true but don't have access to the list. That's over 6 years of flow in a couple of blinks of an eye.

Here's hoping the flow doesn't stop after the 824. You guys deserve a break!
That's cool. Sounds like some of my former classmates from the summer of 2004 are finally flowing through. Good for them. Long wait finally paying off. Congrats!
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Old 01-19-2016 | 07:32 AM
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That's everyone's hope here too. Up and out would make things much brighter here. There's a lot of really great people who have been grinding away waiting for the payoff of lines, better seniority and upgrades. They deserve it for putting up with this place.
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Old 01-19-2016 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CODs4ever
That's cool. Sounds like some of my former classmates from the summer of 2004 are finally flowing through. Good for them. Long wait finally paying off. Congrats!

They haven't got through the hires from 2000 yet, but there aren't a whole lot of them left here. Many have moved on elsewhere.
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Old 01-19-2016 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
Thanks for backing m3 up fellas. Knew it to be true but don't have access to the list. That's over 6 years of flow in a couple of blinks of an eye.

Here's hoping the flow doesn't stop after the 824. You guys deserve a break!
There is no reason to believe the flow will stop after the 824 - the protected pilot group starts immediately following. The number of pilots who flow will initially be lower, 35% of all AA new hire classes but when the 40th 175 shows up, that number goes back to 50% of AA new hires. The 175s are already showing up at an accelerated rate - the time between the last 824 and the 40th 175 delivery should only be a few months. Most people were expecting some sort of delay or slow down to the 175 delivery schedule.
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Old 01-19-2016 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
Thanks for backing m3 up fellas. Knew it to be true but don't have access to the list. That's over 6 years of flow in a couple of blinks of an eye.

Here's hoping the flow doesn't stop after the 824. You guys deserve a break!
Yeah the flow and upgrade lists are deceiving unless you actually look at the date of hire. The large gaps in hiring are making it seem like it is taking forever to upgrade people from hire date but once that gap arrives the "Time to Upgrade " falls a good bit.

Now, I am not saying 2.5/5.5/6 or what ever it is but it explains the situation a bit.
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Old 01-19-2016 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by snippercr
There is no reason to believe the flow will stop after the 824 - the protected pilot group starts immediately following. The number of pilots who flow will initially be lower, 35% of all AA new hire classes but when the 40th 175 shows up, that number goes back to 50% of AA new hires. The 175s are already showing up at an accelerated rate - the time between the last 824 and the 40th 175 delivery should only be a few months. Most people were expecting some sort of delay or slow down to the 175 delivery schedule.
Even if one doesn't intend to flow to AA. It's nice insurance for guaranteed movement. That's not including those who go to LCCs or other legacies.

2 more -175s are coming this month and they're ready to begin flying as soon as the 20th. Sounds like it'll be on a reserve basis, if you will. If Mesa cancels, or one of our -700s cancels, they'll have a -175 ready to go.
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Old 01-19-2016 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by N927EV
Even if one doesn't intend to flow to AA. It's nice insurance for guaranteed movement. That's not including those who go to LCCs or other legacies.

2 more -175s are coming this month and they're ready to begin flying as soon as the 20th. Sounds like it'll be on a reserve basis, if you will. If Mesa cancels, or one of our -700s cancels, they'll have a -175 ready to go.
It does play into the role of Envoy being the "reserve" airline.
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