I don't think anyone can beat Parkers "skeletons". Any actual pilot employee with 3 DUI's and a Felony wouldn't even be allowed to be a janitor here, let alone fly a jet. Lol. (But he can be trusted to run a multibillion dollar company somehow).

 

Well, I can't argue with you there. Although I have not researched the specifics of his public conduct in this respect so I couldn't validate your claims, arguably anyone who does have such a past could aptly be seen as someone who has very poor decision-making and judgement abilities and is repeatedly willing to sacrifice the interests of others for self-interest. It's one reason why I winced at statements that "this time is different" based on what many have said about this issue.

Unfortunately, in the world of "Big Business", it seems one internal quality that runs through the Executive world is the "us and them" philosophy where different sets of rules apply. Same goes with politicians. What's overlooked there (or even sometimes rewarded) is considered unacceptable here.

 

Our LEC rep says we got a (me too) clause agreed upon with this bonus deal. If PSA or PDT does happen to get something better. We will get it as well.

 

The new hire (after March 1st) will not get this retention bonus.

how is that supposed to bring more pilots?

 

They get the new hire bonus with 2 yr commitment. I think the company is hoping this is enough until you make it on to the Captain scale. Time will tell if envoy was right

 

You, sir, are a troll.

Ignored.

 

The program was two pronged. First is FO retention $10k a year. The second part is designed to get lateral movers from other 121 pilots with up $10k sign on bonus in addition to the current $5k bonus.

I believe the company wants to rely on the Cadet program for new hires. Now they are finally going after previous 121 pilots and trying to retain our current guys.

 

I don't think the retention part of these bonuses will work, people are over the Pedro and Dic regime. If they get canned and the following changes happen then maybe.

- schedules become more then min days off
- credit of those schedules become more then min
- management stands down from its hostile stance against us
- admit 2.5/6 is a lie
- fix payroll problems
- fix reserve
- HONOR OUR CONTRACT

No one wants to stay here because of the stance the two clowns have taken. A check every three months will absolutely not help the grind these two make it to work here. I get new hires will at least consider envoy, but hopefully stay away. In reality though, these people still go to republic and Mesa before they come here(at least I hope)

 

Scheduling is likely one reason for the short two-year duration. Once more 175's hit the line and more mid-day flying returns, the schedules WILL likely improve. It will take awhile though. As for the rest, I believe most of that will be completely altered by then as well due to a major shift in the present make-up and relationship of the WO's who are divvying up the flying and whom Envoy is the present safety net for the other two WO's due to its present excess staffing that they want to minimize losing until as Jack Sparrow said,......."the opportune moment".

All Envoy ALPA did was give them the most tools possible to do that right on managements schedule, which offers little benefit to the pilot GROUP. This MEC obviously can always be counted on to be moved in a certain direction, even if they don't understand the ramifications of the direction they are going.

 

2.5/6 is old school news. Ricky just announced 2.5/5!!!