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Old 04-15-2016 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
There is no possible way you typed this with a straight face.
I can't tell if they are a troll or if they truly believe this.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I can't tell if they are a troll or if they truly believe this.
Obvious troll is obvious.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBlueBaron
What is the upgrade time these days?
Dropping like a rock.....this time a year ago it was fall 2007, now it's spring 2008.like a rock...


Our management needs to fix the schedules, variety of bases, and match endevour on the retention pay. If those items are important to new hires which I think they are, then time will force their hand. I do think now is a good time to get on here.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 05:13 AM
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I love how all the envoy cheerleaders point out what can happen if you come to Envoy. Why not point out what is happening. The slogan should be "come to envoy, it will suck for ten years, but if flow works then it will be better in ten years"

They all say, you can upgrade fast, and flow soon. Well how about while everyone is waiting for that fantasy to come true, fix schedules, stop the crappy treatment of employees, staff properly. Etc.

Unfortunately, won't happen. Our Alpa leadership is currently under Sam Poole's leadership, and he leads with his mouth open under Ric and Pedro's desk.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 05:18 AM
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I agree with smutter.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 05:47 AM
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Well things have gotten so bad at LASA that I'm a 15 year CA and pondering making a move to Envoy. The company won't say anything about extending our contract at DFW with AA and frankly I have my doubts we can continue to staff it if it were extended. I was here when we closed the base before with DL and I have no desire to commute to ATL again for this place. As long as SKYW owns us, we will be the redheaded stepchild while they are the golden child.

I've got my stuff out at SWA, AA, & UA but I think it's gonna be a while. I need a Texas base and AA is my first choice.

Outside of the pain from about a $70/hr pay cut (and maybe a ****ed off wife), I don't see any downside to leaving ASA for Envoy. Any thoughts?
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Old 04-15-2016 | 05:49 AM
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Company email today.

More Eagles returning to the Envoy nest

Just a few weeks ago, we announced that American is returning five additional aircraft to Envoy’s fleet – two Embraer 145s that were being operated by Express Jet and three Embraer 140s from storage in San Angelo (SJT). I’m delighted to share an update to that plan that will boost our fleet count even further.

Envoy will receive three additional E140 aircraft from storage, in time to support the July schedule. Our team in Abilene will begin preparations immediately to reactivate these aircraft, which will operate throughout our system, including in Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW), Chicago (ORD) and Miami (MIA).

As you may know, today is the second anniversary of our transformation into “Envoy” – and what better way to celebrate that milestone than with an announcement that we are going to fly even more! This recall will bring Envoy’s active fleet count to 155, which is an increase of 15 aircraft just since the beginning of this year:

Aircraft

December 2015
July 2016

EMB-175
4
18

CRJ-700
35
35

EMB-145
86
82

EMB-140
15
20

TOTAL
140
155


American’s request for Envoy to operate these incremental aircraft is a direct result of the exceptional operating performance our team continues to provide to American and its customers. And all of the additional flying directly translates into jobs – we’ve hired 28 new pilots this month alone, and are on pace to hire 300 pilots for the year. We’re also hiring more than 400 Flight Attendants and numerous other positions such as mechanics, dispatchers and customer service employees to support our growing operation.

Our record-setting safety, reliability and dependability wouldn’t be possible without the dedication of the entire team – and I thank you all for your hard work!

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D

Okay, isn't this really a moot sales point? The 140s are going away anyways. Why are they bringing these back when other carriers have our 145s, hulls that are useful for a lot longer in a particular timeframe. This strategy does not make sense. Either something is in the works that the 140s are a catalyst or AAG is hoping that this will sway the pilots to feel better about staying here?



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Old 04-15-2016 | 05:50 AM
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Just announced...

3 more planes coming from storage for July.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I can't tell if they are a troll or if they truly believe this.
Have you followed these Envoy threads at all? They are nothing but an Envoy cheerleading-fest. Look a few posts up. A guy is having a few drinks on an off day and is thinking about how much he loves Envoy. Come on.

I've seen cr700 post before and I am sure he is absolutely serious.
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Old 04-15-2016 | 06:16 AM
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All aircraft at envoy that are returning are all temporary, 12 months maximum.
So don't buy into wilsons eutopia of envoy. Envoy is still being screwed by aag.

Your welcome to come to envoy and enjoy being bent over.

hows that for cheerleading.
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