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Old 04-17-2016 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cali2797
What are you talking about? When has the company threatened us for MORE concessions? Are you referring to the contract negotiations two years ago?
Satellite bases, Continuous Duty Overnights, refusal to improve schedules without concessions. What has your company done for you to attract and retain pilots?
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Old 04-17-2016 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Romulus
Satellite bases, Continuous Duty Overnights, refusal to improve schedules without concessions. What has your company done for you to attract and retain pilots?
I LOVE CDOs, huge QOL improvement for a local guy.
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Old 04-17-2016 | 05:43 PM
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You're welcome. Said no commuter ever.
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Old 04-17-2016 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Romulus
Satellite bases, Continuous Duty Overnights, refusal to improve schedules without concessions. What has your company done for you to attract and retain pilots?
I don't remember the company "threatening" us over any of these issues.
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Old 04-17-2016 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
You're welcome. Said no commuter ever.
I actually fly with quite a few commuters that bid the CDOs because they are technically, commutable. The first day's show time isn't until 2000-2130 time frame and you are guaranteed to get done between 0600 - 0800 on your last day. You just have to find something to do with yourself during the daytime between the trips. After you use the 4 commuter hotels, maybe a drop or two or a transition legality, you have 4 days to worry about the whole month.

While I'm sure that 12 hour days in the crew room or crashpad isn't fun, they seem to feel its worth the ultra commutability on both ends.
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Old 04-17-2016 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
I actually fly with quite a few commuters that bid the CDOs because they are technically, commutable. The first day's show time isn't until 2000-2130 time frame and you are guaranteed to get done between 0600 - 0800 on your last day. You just have to find something to do with yourself during the daytime between the trips. After you use the 4 commuter hotels, maybe a drop or two or a transition legality, you have 4 days to worry about the whole month.

While I'm sure that 12 hour days in the crew room or crashpad isn't fun, they seem to feel its worth the ultra commutability on both ends.
The company is providing a day hotel in base for the CDO people.
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Old 04-17-2016 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
The company is providing a day hotel in base for the CDO people.
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Old 04-17-2016 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
The company is providing a day hotel in base for the CDO people.
I was under the impression that was only for reserves doing back to back CDOs, so no one.
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Old 04-17-2016 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
I actually fly with quite a few commuters that bid the CDOs because they are technically, commutable. The first day's show time isn't until 2000-2130 time frame and you are guaranteed to get done between 0600 - 0800 on your last day. You just have to find something to do with yourself during the daytime between the trips. After you use the 4 commuter hotels, maybe a drop or two or a transition legality, you have 4 days to worry about the whole month.

While I'm sure that 12 hour days in the crew room or crashpad isn't fun, they seem to feel its worth the ultra commutability on both ends.


Good for them, I'm glad they don't mind trying to occupy themselves for the 12 plus hours between trips. That also doesn't assume that all CDO lines went to commuters, or that all commuters are willing to accept the attempt to sleep in the crew lounge or midday in a crashpad when some CDO trips have 5 hours or so between legs at a hotel. That also leaves the more than one hundred lines that are mostly not commutable.

Not acceptable. The commutability took a dump when CDO's showed up. We got promised better schedules when we got CDO trips back, but is sure looks like those trips were made better for the locals, not the commuters who were hung out to dry.

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Old 04-17-2016 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by moon
I was under the impression that was only for reserves doing back to back CDOs, so no one.


You are correct. Reserve only. If the CDO line holders got day rooms those lines would go super senior.
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