Why would a reserve do a back to back CDO? Unless it takes him into his last day for an early release.

It doesn't make sense that a reserve guy would pick up a back to back CDO.

 

I don't know what "propaganda" you are talking about, but Envoy has 28 new hires this month. Do you think that those new hires would be coming here if everything was as bad as the picture you paint? No.
They are coming here because they realize Envoy has turned the corner and is the only place to go if you want a guaranteed mainline job in 6 years.

You could go to a Mesa, TSA, Gojets or wherever and get that quick upgrade, get your 1000 PIC and sit there for 10 years before even an LCC might call you. I've got news for you. Envoy's upgrade is projected at about 2.5 years for someone hired today. So, I don't know how quick that upgrade at another bottom of the barrel company is really that much quicker than if you came to Envoy. Then, instead of waiting around 10 years to get hired at maybe an LCC, you go straight to the largest major airline in the world in 6 years. I don't know how you think you can beat that.

You may have heard but Republic is having trouble meeting their AA flight schedule. We are expecting some of their 175's to come here. Envoy continues to add to projected fleet count. Right now, we are at 155 aircraft by years end. That's about 15 above where we were projected to be by year end 2016. Not if, but when some of Republic's aircraft start showing up here, you'll see that fleet count continue to rise. With the 175 options out there, I wouldn't be surprised to see Envoy's fleet count get near 200 again at some point. It's obvious PSA isn't able to staff our CRJ's so I would expect those to continue being deferred indefinitely. Right now, they are deferred through the end of the year but unless PSA starts getting big numbers through the door, they aren't going anywhere.

All this means is many more Captain slots here at Envoy further dropping the upgrade time. And the flow continues unabated. We've already been notified that the flow isn't going to stop as Letter T pilots return to AA. Even flowing a few less this year and then getting back up to full speed next year still gets a new hire over to AA in six years.

You really need to evaluate what you post when you don't have facts.

 

A four day stretch of CDO's only requires one hotel room. That is why they tend to go pretty senior at least at my regional.

 

It's only partially pilot staffing. BB is using bankruptcy to get rid of all of our oldest 170 type aircraft as well as the Q's and 145's. About 8 of the 20 we are getting rid of were on active routes, hence the reduction at the end of April and into May. We have been flying 170's on routes usually flown by 175's for the last 3 weeks, I'm sure BB and company are trying to load up hours on them right before they are surrendered.

On the hiring front, 21 new hires start class this week, plus some transfers.

 

Actually, when RAH dumps its old 170's, Parker is going to award most of Envoys confirmed 175's and all of its options to RAH under the re-negotiated CPA. Even talk of opening a DFW base in late 2016.....

Look at that.... I can make s#!t up too.

 

Hypocrite in 3-2-1.....


It's Monday morning and the Wilson/Neider team is in here eschewing propaganda while their airline is currently shutdown due to a power outage.

Step right up! Get your envoy brainwashing here! That's right, you are a nobody if you don't go to envoy now! There is no other option! It's the only way to the words largest airline(and crappiest). If you go to any other regional, you are stupid!!

Only a moron could say "I don't know what propaganda you speak of" and then spew out clear propaganda IN THE SAME POST!

 

I stopped reading after this. Let me ask you - do you have any idea how many young and fresh 1500 hour CFIs get a hard-on at the thought of just being asked by ANY regional to come work for them? Most people don't don't do the research! They come from pipeline programs at the CFI stage and all they know is that they are "eventually going to get to AA". Most don't know what a CBA is, or what the "in between" life is gonna look like. They just take whatever they gotta deal with for granted since it's their first airline and they don't understand that being on reserve for 2 years and upgrading in 4 is NOT normal anymore.

People need to seriously educate themselves thoroughly before picking any regional and especially the new kids on the block.

 

Oh they are well aware of how impressionable the younglings are. That is why they want to be able to freely spew their own version of "reality", the utopian one. That is why they attack places like this, that provide a venue for more accurate pictures to be painted. Scumbags, without conscience, they are.

 

Not exactly sure what you are saying there, maybe I am misreading the intent of your post, but 117.27 seems clear that if you have more than 3 CDO's, then they all must have a suitable rest place. Unless you are talking about off duty during the day.

 

Yeah, I don't get what he's saying either. A 4 day CDO trip is 3 duty nights which would leave two rest periods between those 3 CDO's. I don't see how a single hotel covers anything in that situation.