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05-10-2016, 07:09 AM
#2771
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 501
Originally Posted by eaglefly
Another demonstration of ebb and flow and many pilots simply don't understand the past. Never pass up seniority when it is offered if it is somewhere you WANT to be..
I agree with this statement. I've noticed more "where should I go?" threads have popped up again. More about asking of making lateral moves. In my experience the key to a better success in the regional world is that quote. I started in Mesa then had enough and moved to Eagle. Even though the seniority lost during that transition was substantial, I still believe it was a smart move. Contract was a great IMPROVEMENT. (2007)
Today? I really don't know. I have lost touch with any Mesa buddies. But this is great advice for any prospective pilot. I do slightly sympathize with the "waiters" because I also did my time in turboprops. That was one of my key reasons why I left Mesa as well. Tired of either being completely frozen during winter, or losing 10lbs of water weight during the summer. (Dash8-100s) Pax always freaking out and complaining because it's a flying boat. (I had an American guy call us a "mosquito" on JFK ground freq. LOL)
However, passing up the 145, because it's a 50 seater is ludicrously dumb. If you want to complain about an airplane, fly a turboprop that is as old as the MD80. Or better yet, a C172!! LOL.... Be happy you at least got hired.
05-10-2016, 10:31 AM
#2772
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 490
Originally Posted by highflyer1980
I agree with this statement. I've noticed more "where should I go?" threads have popped up again. More about asking of making lateral moves. In my experience the key to a better success in the regional world is that quote. I started in Mesa then had enough and moved to Eagle. Even though the seniority lost during that transition was substantial, I still believe it was a smart move. Contract was a great IMPROVEMENT. (2007)
Today? I really don't know. I have lost touch with any Mesa buddies. But this is great advice for any prospective pilot. I do slightly sympathize with the "waiters" because I also did my time in turboprops. That was one of my key reasons why I left Mesa as well. Tired of either being completely frozen during winter, or losing 10lbs of water weight during the summer. (Dash8-100s) Pax always freaking out and complaining because it's a flying boat. (I had an American guy call us a "mosquito" on JFK ground freq. LOL)
However, passing up the 145, because it's a 50 seater is ludicrously dumb. If you want to complain about an airplane, fly a turboprop that is as old as the MD80. Or better yet, a C172!! LOL.... Be happy you at least got hired.
Today? I really don't know. I have lost touch with any Mesa buddies. But this is great advice for any prospective pilot. I do slightly sympathize with the "waiters" because I also did my time in turboprops. That was one of my key reasons why I left Mesa as well. Tired of either being completely frozen during winter, or losing 10lbs of water weight during the summer. (Dash8-100s) Pax always freaking out and complaining because it's a flying boat. (I had an American guy call us a "mosquito" on JFK ground freq. LOL)
However, passing up the 145, because it's a 50 seater is ludicrously dumb. If you want to complain about an airplane, fly a turboprop that is as old as the MD80. Or better yet, a C172!! LOL.... Be happy you at least got hired.
05-10-2016, 11:52 AM
#2775
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Position: A320 FO
Posts: 501
Originally Posted by boiler07
But 145s don't look as good as 175s on their Instagram accounts!
Actually, I like how cool the 145 looks after takeoff. Especially when some guys rotate a little slower than normal with the gear up. Plus, I really like the simplicity of the airplane as well. So easy to hand fly out of the sim and IOE.
05-10-2016, 12:49 PM
#2776
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Posts: 771
Originally Posted by highflyer1980
Actually, I like how cool the 145 looks after takeoff. Especially when some guys rotate a little slower than normal with the gear up. Plus, I really like the simplicity of the airplane as well. So easy to hand fly out of the sim and IOE.
They've all got their positives and negatives. I honestly always enjoyed the variety of flying on the 145. Small airports, big airports, Caribbean flying, and actually having to shoot something other than an ILS! But, I digress. I guess it's just not the same without the engines under the wings. ☹️
05-10-2016, 01:28 PM
#2778
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Position: A320 FO
Posts: 501
Originally Posted by N927EV
They've all got their positives and negatives. I honestly always enjoyed the variety of flying on the 145. Small airports, big airports, Caribbean flying, and actually having to shoot something other than an ILS! But, I digress. I guess it's just not the same without the engines under the wings. ☹️
That's true. Nothing like doing two 15 minute flights, then doing a 2.5 to 3 hour flight.
05-10-2016, 02:13 PM
#2779
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Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by highflyer1980
Actually, I like how cool the 145 looks after takeoff. Especially when some guys rotate a little slower than normal with the gear up. Plus, I really like the simplicity of the airplane as well. So easy to hand fly out of the sim and IOE.
Size DOES matter to the airline pilot.
05-10-2016, 05:08 PM
#2780
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 179
Wow, are pilots really giving up seniority based on equipment type? That is completely ridiculous. New pilots considering working here, please understand: seniority is everything. Your initial equipment assignment as a new hire can easily change because of future displacements and vacancies. The only thing that matters is to get as early a seniority number as possible. Period.
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