New Envoy Information
04-11-2016 | 12:39 PM
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There is a good lesson in that though and that is the consolidation of companies can be structured in ways that give leverage to certain parties and put other parties at a disadvantage. Depending on what happens with Envoy in the future, it may be Envoy ALPA that must make certain exceptions to contractual items which was a point in one of my previous posts, hence my skepticism of the PP being "bulletproof".
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04-11-2016 | 12:43 PM
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Yes. There's a box management fill when you resign about "rehirable". Your emp# follows you for life for any AAG company. You accepted a class, you have an employee #. Btw AA numbers are never repeated.
Like the Tinder guy, he's probably banned for life to work in a AAG company. Too bad for him, a mistake that will probably follow him for at least 15/20 years.
Like the Tinder guy, he's probably banned for life to work in a AAG company. Too bad for him, a mistake that will probably follow him for at least 15/20 years.
04-11-2016 | 12:51 PM
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Yes. There's a box management fill when you resign about "rehirable". Your emp# follows you for life for any AAG company. You accepted a class, you have an employee #. Btw AA numbers are never repeated.
Like the Tinder guy, he's probably banned for life to work in a AAG company. Too bad for him, a mistake that will probably follow him for at least 15/20 years.
Like the Tinder guy, he's probably banned for life to work in a AAG company. Too bad for him, a mistake that will probably follow him for at least 15/20 years.
I'm not sure how this affects his PRIA as technically I would think he would have begun training with a 121 carrier and failed to complete it, so it may be something he'll have to explain wherever he goes, unless he already has a class date elsewhere and was simply playing whack-a-mole, which in this case wouldn't matter for THAT airline, but what about the next ?
Bad idea to handle it that way and very unprofessional.
04-11-2016 | 01:38 PM
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Interesting. Was just told on Friday that they are guaranteeing base and equipment choice to new hires. If you show up for class and don't get the 175 in DFW like you wanted, you do the week of indoc and then get time off with pay until a 175 spot is available. Nobody goes to ORD unless they want it. Maybe that is only from the April 25th class onwards?
04-11-2016 | 01:55 PM
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They told me the same regarding age determining seniority in class. Pretty standard, unlike some companies that go by SSN. They also told me about guaranteeing equipment, at least for my class on the 25th. Don't know if mine will be the first class with that perk.
04-11-2016 | 01:57 PM
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Your AA employee number follows you around like a your credit and SSN.
They can see everything you do in one company from the other one.
04-11-2016 | 02:03 PM
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04-11-2016 | 04:09 PM
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Could be. I remember they offered guaranteed bases in the past at one point in like 2007 or 2008 I think.
04-11-2016 | 04:14 PM
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No rumor. They could do that because unlike a merger, the TWA transaction was structured as an "asset acquisition with an offer of employment". Not everyone got "offers" and ALPA was more interested in courting the AA pilots and threw the TWA pilots under the bus in trying, supposedly from my understanding, this being one of those ways. Of course, they were sued and lost.
There is a good lesson in that though and that is the consolidation of companies can be structured in ways that give leverage to certain parties and put other parties at a disadvantage. Depending on what happens with Envoy in the future, it may be Envoy ALPA that must make certain exceptions to contractual items which was a point in one of my previous posts, hence my skepticism of the PP being "bulletproof".
There is a good lesson in that though and that is the consolidation of companies can be structured in ways that give leverage to certain parties and put other parties at a disadvantage. Depending on what happens with Envoy in the future, it may be Envoy ALPA that must make certain exceptions to contractual items which was a point in one of my previous posts, hence my skepticism of the PP being "bulletproof".
Then you say ALPA (who exactly, ALPA national or the TWA MEC, that part I'm not clear) was the one who was helping AA mgmt rape TWA employees.
It seems history is revised against everyone except the vaunted, righteous APA.
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