New Envoy Information
05-11-2016, 11:57 AM
#2801
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The difference now is everyone has their own crew rooms. Airways regionals had/shared spaces like in CLT. Dfw and ord everyone is separated. And it works, we all know we won't get along so it would be best not to try it and find out.
05-11-2016, 01:51 PM
#2804
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Position: CRJ FO
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Originally Posted by SkyWago
The difference now is everyone has their own crew rooms. Airways regionals had/shared spaces like in CLT. Dfw and ord everyone is separated. And it works, we all know we won't get along so it would be best not to try it and find out.
05-11-2016, 01:57 PM
#2805
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Why won't we get along?
The envoy FOs took a $80k hit because PSA bend over for planes instead of holding the line with Xjet, Rah, Envoy. There was momentum between the regionals and it was killed by PSA pilots.
Mid Sr Envoy FOs should had been CAs for about 2 yrs now. But AAG played it nicely, PSA is so JR pilot group they will try to keep them locked longer than ENY/PDT pilots which are more expensive.
05-11-2016, 02:05 PM
#2806
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Why? You know why...
The envoy FOs took a $80k hit because PSA bend over for planes instead of holding the line with Xjet, Rah, Envoy. There was momentum between the regionals and it was killed by PSA pilots.
Mid Sr Envoy FOs should had been CAs for about 2 yrs now. But AAG played it nicely, PSA is so JR pilot group they will try to keep them locked longer than ENY/PDT pilots which are more expensive.
The envoy FOs took a $80k hit because PSA bend over for planes instead of holding the line with Xjet, Rah, Envoy. There was momentum between the regionals and it was killed by PSA pilots.
Mid Sr Envoy FOs should had been CAs for about 2 yrs now. But AAG played it nicely, PSA is so JR pilot group they will try to keep them locked longer than ENY/PDT pilots which are more expensive.
AAG is to blame. Period.
All you are doing is keeping the regionals divided, which is exactly what management wants. Good job. Parker will be happy!
05-11-2016, 02:28 PM
#2807
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Posts: 439
Originally Posted by daOldMan
Because Envoy pilots are still oblivious to what happened a couple of years ago. They blame a group of pilots that are currently flying at the majors now, but are attempting to punish some new regional pilots, for what was not their fault in the first place.
AAG is to blame. Period.
All you are doing is keeping the regionals divided, which is exactly what management wants. Good job. Parker will be happy!
AAG is to blame. Period.
All you are doing is keeping the regionals divided, which is exactly what management wants. Good job. Parker will be happy!
05-11-2016, 02:30 PM
#2808
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Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 4,599
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Why? You know why...
The envoy FOs took a $80k hit because PSA bend over for planes instead of holding the line with Xjet, Rah, Envoy. There was momentum between the regionals and it was killed by PSA pilots.
Mid Sr Envoy FOs should had been CAs for about 2 yrs now. But AAG played it nicely, PSA is so JR pilot group they will try to keep them locked longer than ENY/PDT pilots which are more expensive.
The envoy FOs took a $80k hit because PSA bend over for planes instead of holding the line with Xjet, Rah, Envoy. There was momentum between the regionals and it was killed by PSA pilots.
Mid Sr Envoy FOs should had been CAs for about 2 yrs now. But AAG played it nicely, PSA is so JR pilot group they will try to keep them locked longer than ENY/PDT pilots which are more expensive.
05-11-2016, 02:33 PM
#2809
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Posts: 699
Originally Posted by sublime259
Wrong wrong wrong! This is why there is so much hatred towards you scab$...because you just don't get it. Any pilot hired in the past 2 and a half years knowingly went to a company that perpetuated the race to the bottom. At least some of the guys hired pre-vote could claim they voted no and tried to convince their peers of the right course of action. The new guys? They're just as bad, if not worse, then the ones who voted on that contract. I know many pilots who wouldn't get caught dead even interviewing at that scumbag operation after the 2013 vote.
Lol.
That means that you won't ever fly for a major airline that voted in a concessionary contract? Delta, AA, and United must be off of your list.
That would mean that Envoy (Eagle) has NEVER done anything wrong, ever. Am I correct?
PSA would be out of business, hundreds of pilots would have been on the street, and the regional market would be EXACTLY where it is now if PSA had voted no.
Oh, and good job holding the line on the no FO bonuses. Your MEC folded like a cheap lawn chair on that one. Thank you Parker, may I have another?!?!
05-11-2016, 02:48 PM
#2810
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Originally Posted by sublime259
Wrong wrong wrong! This is why there is so much hatred towards you scab$...because you just don't get it. Any pilot hired in the past 2 and a half years knowingly went to a company that perpetuated the race to the bottom. At least some of the guys hired pre-vote could claim they voted no and tried to convince their peers of the right course of action. The new guys? They're just as bad, if not worse, then the ones who voted on that contract. I know many pilots who wouldn't get caught dead even interviewing at that scumbag operation after the 2013 vote.
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