Amazingly, people still believe what Obama says is true, why should Doug Parker and AAG mgmt be any different?

 

Found the Trump supporter!

 

lol

Fixed it for ya. No charge.

 

How soon can I get of reserve and be able to have weekends off on the E175?

 

He's got a little over a 20 post count and I've read all of them. Military guy not a pilot. Busted 3 rides but not all his fault. Knows more than the rest of us about just about everything already. Has SJS, which is pretty embarrassing for an old dude.

 

Cessna 172SP with G1000.

 

Because he's turning down classes of seniority!!!!!!!!! Thought that was the point. I've flown everything from 1 seat to around 350 seats. Now I'm going to 30-50 seats and do you think I'm worried about it "dying" or care what others think of what I fly? Uh....no.

And the MRJ, last I checked, doesn't even exist in the operating world.

 

Envoy will be sending "20" planes to PDT, but receiving back 30 planes between TSA and Xjet = net gain of 10 planes. We are taking 5 planes out of the desert to get them in service.

Also the guys on the 175 will be stagnant once they fill all the spots. Why? Because new hires will not upgrade for at least 3-4 years. That means every FO on the CRJ and EMJ will have more movement than the 175 guys. Because the 2010/2011 hires (about 300-400 pilots) that are next to upgrade are in the 145 and CRJ.

Also if there's a displacement bid because they decide to open MIA or other base, senior people will be able to proffer to displace. JR guys will be out of their E-175 seat.

I've seen it happening the last displacement bid. Guys that were line holders in the CRJ getting bumped to RSV and JR CRJ guys displaced to the erj. Two months later they started hiring into the CRJ.

Another point is that there will not be furlough, specially when other companies can't staff their planes.

 

Agreed 100%

 

Envoy doesn't need to park all the 145's for such a scenario to happen (I didn't even infer that would occur anyway). All they have to do is what they are headed to do - contract. If they contract at the rate of pilot attrition, theoretically they can just gradually dispose of smaller Embraers (parking/transfer) to match their staffing, but in all likelihood, pilot attrition will be unbalanced, especially in domiciles, like DFW. That means more senior pilots can and likely will displace into E-175 F/O positions to stay there. Personally, I think you're overconfident of just how things may very well play out for you there if you ARE a "noob" as you claim to be (which I have doubts about).

An interesting point, but if you would review the Envoy threads of the last 6 months, you'd note many Envoy pilots here have succumbed to exactly the overly optimistic assumptions you appear to be doing. They blasted me (and a few others) repeatedly and relentlessly about "how things are different now at Envoy" and "AAG is running the show, not AMR" and "the 2.5/6 projections are doable" and my "hypotheticals" are low percentage long shots and here we are with the 2.5 year upgrade claim a complete dud and the 6 year flow right behind it. Last months rush to the door there has all but flopped a scant 1 month later and the dynamics in play that caused that are a catch-22 and there are multiple situations and scenarios that none of us have considered that could change the situation at Envoy dramatically in the future.

It's just a suggestion to you (and for your own well being), but I would offer the same advice to you as to others who have IMO previously overplayed their expectations about their future at Envoy - Don't assume you've got the future all figured out, especially when it comes to the consistently topsy-turvy world of Envoy. If you ARE a true noobie there, what you have learned at other carriers may not apply to Envoy going forward and to assume it does, you may be headed for the same repetitive cycle of irrational euphoria - crushing disappointment as so many who also have experience wandering around the industry have and do now at Envoy. I know as I too have fallen victim to that same dysfunctional cycle during the early tenure of my near quarter century at its predecessor Eagle.

Good luck and one other point I should emphasize is that you might want to temper your view of the 145 as that is almost certainly your upgrade whenever that occurs, so embracing it now might be a smoother transition, at least emotionally.