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Old 07-26-2016 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueNorth
Cool, thanks for the reply.
Also every hour with the company it counts for two.
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Old 07-26-2016 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Also every hour with the company it counts for two.
Great, thank you.
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Old 07-27-2016 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Every Captain you knew who flowed? You must've known quite a few really bitter captains, because nearly every pilot who's flowed over can tell you that the differnce between the two companies, in terms of how we are treated on a daily basis by Crew Scheduling, Crew Tracking, and the Chief Pilot's offices is night and day different than it was on the Eagle side. Conversations with Crew Scheduling are pleasant and not confrontational. If you call out fatigued or sick, you don't get any attitude over the phone, you simply get an "OK". When something is needed from the Chief pilot's office, the staff is pleasant, and the Chief's themselves are even more so. The comparisons can go on and on.

Yes, there have been a few guys that have come over and have carried their chip on their shoulder right into the AA cockpits, and the captains who have had the displeasure of being paired with them have told me it makes for a miserable trip. But those guys are the exception, not the rule.

It's MUCH better on the AA side.
It's not that much better to hold out at Envoy in hopes of landing that parachute at AA. When I called out sick I could careless about the "attitude" schedulers gave me. Why? Because at the end of the day they have 0 effect on me if I'm unfit. At Eagle, I had the absolute BEST chief pilots in MIA so absolutely no complaints there. What Captain at Eagle/Envoy isn't bitter? The lifers? Or the ones who probably still preach "we should've voted yes"

So other than crew scheduling, chief pilots and training is it REALLY that much better or worth the wait? AA guys are just as bitter at AAG because of the tone upper management creates. Just look at the US Air guys.

I flew AA not too long ago, from the gate agent to the flight attendants I couldn't believe the garbage product that was delivered. Everyone's miserable.
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Old 07-27-2016 | 08:09 AM
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Just got a call from recruitment about my August 15th class and they offered me an extra 5k if I chose anything but DFW E175.
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Old 07-27-2016 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by citxls
Everyone's miserable.

...I laugh when I read this kind of stuff or encounter people who are that unhappy, it only reminds me that I have no reason to complain and my life is not that bad!!!

disclaimer: not directed at you but a general statement/observation
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Old 07-27-2016 | 10:54 AM
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New white shirts for new hires. What happened to the old blue ones that said envoy.
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Old 07-27-2016 | 11:17 AM
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They switched to American Airlines white polos. It's part of AA's plan to highlight the fact we are part of them, and as an extension remind everyone about the flow.

Hence, our new uniform wings have the AA logo on them and don't say Envoy anywhere.
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Old 07-27-2016 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
New white shirts for new hires. What happened to the old blue ones that said envoy.
They hand out both blue Envoy and white AA shirts in training. Someone in the class picks which to wear for the picture.
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Old 07-27-2016 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
That guy isn't a recruiter. I know a few of the recruiters and NOBODY talks like that or is that out of touch. My guess is that it's another troll who is trying to bait people into talking smack about envoy. And hey, it's working!

There's a select group of people on here with way too much time on their hands and way too much anger in their heart. cr700 is definitely one of them.
You are forgetting that we are on the same side. You are correct that I am not a recruiter but I do work closely with them. Recently at a job fair, I had a potential applicant ask me about how bad things really were at Envoy as that's all he sees on APC. It gets really old when these ax grinders that don't even work here have nothing better to do than bash Envoy on here. It took a bit but I was able to get the applicant to see the light and he is in an upcoming class. All regional's need as many applicants as they can get right now.

All Envoy types should be pulling together to help get the word out that it's really pretty good here.
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Old 07-27-2016 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
They switched to American Airlines white polos. It's part of AA's plan to highlight the fact we are part of them, and as an extension remind everyone about the flow.

Hence, our new uniform wings have the AA logo on them and don't say Envoy anywhere.
This is exactly correct. AA wants to highlight this so that potential recruits understand that they WILL be going to AA. And in the meantime, they are as much a part of AA as a 25 year 777 captain.
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