New Envoy Information
07-05-2016, 01:47 PM
#3781
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by FlameNSky
See, this is where you show your inexperience in trolling. When you make obvious and blatantly incorrect statements, you show your underlying objectives to your statements. Advertisers avoid this pitfall using actor portrayed "personal opinion" statements although such attempts are still fairly apparent.
What non-envoy company do you work for now? ag386 usually brings 7 layer bean dip to the Envoy Haters club meetings, eaglefly always brings celery and hummus and cheep beer but then drinks all the more expensive craft brews. I would suggest you bring a lean protein but nothing with too much salt. They are all getting ready for the end of summer beach field trip next week.
What non-envoy company do you work for now? ag386 usually brings 7 layer bean dip to the Envoy Haters club meetings, eaglefly always brings celery and hummus and cheep beer but then drinks all the more expensive craft brews. I would suggest you bring a lean protein but nothing with too much salt. They are all getting ready for the end of summer beach field trip next week.
07-05-2016, 02:18 PM
#3782
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2016
Position: E175
Posts: 686
Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Yerrrppppp.
Kind of reinforces my original statement that management likes to gloss over why this place sux the most - QOL - QUALITY OF LIFE. Couldn't touch it. Instead he went to try and misdirect back to my FACTS about flow and upgrade with prophecies of what "might" happen.
Life at envoy is god awful. The company could not be happier. Abusing the heck out of pilots means you need less pilots. Yes people pay attention: you are NOTHING but meat for the grinder. When the luster of being an airline pilot is over(go speak to any airline pilot not sucking on the company boob, they will tell you it becomes as tedious a job as any other sometime around year two), you get a nice 30 hour lost weekend in wonderful locales like Lawton Oklahoma, Waco Texas, Joplin Misery......while another airline at your very terminal, flying some of your better old routes, gets weekends off, and is home 15-17 days per month while the average FO here has 12-14. It is a BIG difference and trust me - if your recruiter(aka liar in chief), skips past these kinds of things, it's what you SHOULD focus on.
Kind of reinforces my original statement that management likes to gloss over why this place sux the most - QOL - QUALITY OF LIFE. Couldn't touch it. Instead he went to try and misdirect back to my FACTS about flow and upgrade with prophecies of what "might" happen.
Life at envoy is god awful. The company could not be happier. Abusing the heck out of pilots means you need less pilots. Yes people pay attention: you are NOTHING but meat for the grinder. When the luster of being an airline pilot is over(go speak to any airline pilot not sucking on the company boob, they will tell you it becomes as tedious a job as any other sometime around year two), you get a nice 30 hour lost weekend in wonderful locales like Lawton Oklahoma, Waco Texas, Joplin Misery......while another airline at your very terminal, flying some of your better old routes, gets weekends off, and is home 15-17 days per month while the average FO here has 12-14. It is a BIG difference and trust me - if your recruiter(aka liar in chief), skips past these kinds of things, it's what you SHOULD focus on.
That might be the case on the little jets, but the destinations in the E175 are nothing like you mention.
07-05-2016, 03:12 PM
#3784
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,707
Who cares what 18 airplanes (e175) do, the majority if not 90 percent the schedules are what pilot crusader states.
Also for august the word for the crj is 130 lost weekends and not even cdo's can help out this mess. Envoy management every month tweaks the schedule even more terrible.
Envoy su ck s for this reason alone even though there are any reasons.
Also for august the word for the crj is 130 lost weekends and not even cdo's can help out this mess. Envoy management every month tweaks the schedule even more terrible.
Envoy su ck s for this reason alone even though there are any reasons.
07-05-2016, 03:48 PM
#3785
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 130
Sorry, I'm just new and trying to get a feel on whats going on. I have 3-4 weeks before I apply (to somewhere). Tell me what's behind the 20k bonus I read about. Did they raise the bonus or some special thing put out to get people to ORD? The reason I'm asking is because I'm a broke flight instructor and a good consistant payday will be a big change for me.
07-05-2016, 03:51 PM
#3786
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by buddies8
Who cares what 18 airplanes (e175) do, the majority if not 90 percent the schedules are what pilot crusader states.
Also for august the word for the crj is 130 lost weekends and not even cdo's can help out this mess. Envoy management every month tweaks the schedule even more terrible.
Envoy su ck s for this reason alone even though there are any reasons.
Also for august the word for the crj is 130 lost weekends and not even cdo's can help out this mess. Envoy management every month tweaks the schedule even more terrible.
Envoy su ck s for this reason alone even though there are any reasons.
Perhaps they have a plan to deal with feeble recruitment and moderate attrition after all ?
07-05-2016, 03:57 PM
#3787
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Hack pilot
Posts: 216
It's a real shame to hear Envoy hasn't changed much, and that they continue to use and abuse the pilots with little or no change to QOL. Having jumped ship from that sh**hole I have zero regrets.
Personally, there should be a mass exodus and it's unreal that you guys continue to deal with the stress/abuse.
Sorry, the little jets comment had me rolling. Doesn't matter if you're on the 145 or the 175, you're still at Envoy.
Personally, there should be a mass exodus and it's unreal that you guys continue to deal with the stress/abuse.
Originally Posted by E175 Driver
That might be the case on the little jets, but the destinations in the E175 are nothing like you mention.
07-05-2016, 04:22 PM
#3788
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
Posts: 833
Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Well I stand corrected then. I believe it was 65 total with years of service + actual date. 44 + 21 yrs of service = 65
Hmm, hadn't heard that version. I could be wrong.
07-05-2016, 04:47 PM
#3789
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,205
Originally Posted by buddies8
Who cares what 18 airplanes (e175) do, the majority if not 90 percent the schedules are what pilot crusader states.
Also for august the word for the crj is 130 lost weekends and not even cdo's can help out this mess. Envoy management every month tweaks the schedule even more terrible.
Envoy su ck s for this reason alone even though there are any reasons.
Also for august the word for the crj is 130 lost weekends and not even cdo's can help out this mess. Envoy management every month tweaks the schedule even more terrible.
Envoy su ck s for this reason alone even though there are any reasons.
07-05-2016, 05:11 PM
#3790
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Joined APC: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,707
Then we will have to wait and see. That was the word last week. Who knows by next week, we may give all our flying to skywest as we have done with the mid day flying in ord.
Envoy and the other w/o's are being herded around like lost sheep looking for that flow date which is every month getting less flowing.
But wait dui and skipper have a plan to get rich while you scrape pennies.
Come to envoy get 15k bonus and take a pay cut second year. Only at an aag regional is this a positive.
Envoy and the other w/o's are being herded around like lost sheep looking for that flow date which is every month getting less flowing.
But wait dui and skipper have a plan to get rich while you scrape pennies.
Come to envoy get 15k bonus and take a pay cut second year. Only at an aag regional is this a positive.
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