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Old 08-24-2016 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by EGL04
One?

One person leaving resulted in $5,000 "equipment retention" bonuses?

I heard it was a common occurrence in a few classes that people would go on lunch break and not come back. The common theme was not being awarded the 175.

Maybe that's different than straight up walking out.
That one person was not the cause of the extra bonus, nor the cause of hiring into the E175. It was rather a collective set of circumstances that led to the extra bonus. And the hiring into the E175 for the next class had already been planned well before that. I made the comment because had that person waited 2 weeks, he'd be flying the 175.

The rumor that it was a common occurrence for new hires to leave during breaks is false too. The one person that left on day one did leave during the first break, but he was very polite about it and didn't want to cause a scene.

I'm not one to hold the company's weight, but I try to squash rumors when I see them.

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Old 08-24-2016 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by inky13
That one person was not the cause of the extra bonus, nor the cause of hiring into the E175. It was rather a collective set of circumstances that led to the extra bonus. And the hiring into the E175 for the next class had already been planned well before that. I made the comment because had that person waited 2 weeks, he'd be flying the 175.

The rumor that it was a common occurrence for new hires to leave during breaks is false too. The one person that left on day one did leave during the first break, but he was very polite about it and didn't want to cause a scene.

I'm not one to hold the company's weight, but I try to squash rumors when I see them.

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Good to know. Hopefully the rise in terminations and disciplinary letters for things that used to be verbal warnings won't scare potentials away.

I'm curious if PSA/PDT have had a similar rise in terminations/letters.
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Old 08-24-2016 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by inky13
Spot on. Unfortunately, instead offering an additional bonus for new hires at all WO's (which, as we all know, money talks these days. Albeit, I wish it were hourly pay rates and not "bonuses", but that's another topic of discussion.), it was decided to just keep it at $15k. It's a very problematic dynamic when all new hires want the E175 because the other fleets (and their pilots) suffer when that happens. Yet, overall, we need new hires. Now, the other WO's don't have this dynamic to deal with (or perhaps they do in the form of staffing certain domiciles) so maybe they didn't get the 'why' we had to do it.

Regardless, it's clear that AAG wants the WO's on a "level playing field" with regards to recruiting.


Is it just me or do I smell a displacement bid in the near future if this keeps up. All wanting 175. Eventually Envoy will have to either not offer it anymore or offer it with a displacement bid after every 3 or 4 months which is very costly.


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Old 08-24-2016 | 07:05 AM
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The company is hell bent to not pay for a displacement. With all the movement they will just start paying guys again to take stuff besides the 175. A displacement is highly unlikely.
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Old 08-24-2016 | 07:54 AM
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It's either a displacement or no new hires at this point.

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Old 08-24-2016 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by EGL04

I'm curious if PSA/PDT have had a similar rise in terminations/letters.
All quiet on the western front according to sources
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Old 08-24-2016 | 09:58 AM
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They had their difficulties. Don't forget all the guys that posted photos to social media and got suspended or canned.

At least we could see why they got in trouble there. Here it's becoming rather unpredictable.
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Old 08-24-2016 | 11:17 AM
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Is it just me or does AAG seem to mimic the competing storm chaser in the movie Twister? Always sitting back watching what the other airline does. Then whenever something benefits them (not employees) they immediately spring into action. Also when their employees are screaming that they are about to make a horrible mistake, (driving into a tornado) it goes to deaf ears.

https://youtu.be/u10qmBqH-Sw

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Old 08-24-2016 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980
Is it just me or do I smell a displacement bid in the near future if this keeps up. All wanting 175. Eventually Envoy will have to either not offer it anymore or offer it with a displacement bid after every 3 or 4 months which is very costly.


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Old 08-24-2016 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
I think it's just you.


Ooooohhhh....burn. Grow up.


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