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Old 09-01-2016 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector


What's the latest rumor? Military leave now? Lovely. Next rumor will be that they are firing people for going to the bathroom during a turn.
lol...just gets better and better doesn't it? if i didn't know any better i would say these are people from other airlines who start these rumors just to get envoy guys stirred up. What ever happened to that whole private investigator rumor? Everyone lost their minds for about a week then it died out. I heard it was one individual..thats what the person I spoke to in the union told me anyway.
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Old 09-01-2016 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HardLemonade
lol...just gets better and better doesn't it? if i didn't know any better i would say these are people from other airlines who start these rumors just to get envoy guys stirred up. What ever happened to that whole private investigator rumor? Everyone lost their minds for about a week then it died out. I heard it was one individual..thats what the person I spoke to in the union told me anyway.
I don't want to start any rumors or ignite any fires over this...the best thing to do is what you have already done. Contact your reps or someone in the union and ask them.

But as far as I know, what you heard is correct. There was someone who was abusing FMLA and *possibly* working a second job while out on leave.

He was asked about it, denied it, asked about it again, denied it again, then confronted with pictures that proved what he was being accused of. I don't know all the details, so I won't speculate...but that's the ballpark. The company had reason to believe he was abusing FMLA and turns out they were correct.

Speaking as someone who has taken FMLA multiple times during my years at Eagle/Envoy...I have to say that if true, this guy is a jack wagon...and I'm only calling him that because the swear filter won't let me call him what he actually is. 99% of us are honest and actually need FMLA from time to time for actual reasons such as the birth of a child. Then along comes this guy, abuses the system, lies about it, and in the process makes all of us look bad. Screw him.

But no...the company is not paying money to have a team of PIs track everyone who calls out sick. Goes to show that if you write it on the internet people will believe just about anything.
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Old 09-01-2016 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
I don't want to start any rumors or ignite any fires over this...the best thing to do is what you have already done. Contact your reps or someone in the union and ask them.

But as far as I know, what you heard is correct. There was someone who was abusing FMLA and *possibly* working a second job while out on leave.

He was asked about it, denied it, asked about it again, denied it again, then confronted with pictures that proved what he was being accused of. I don't know all the details, so I won't speculate...but that's the ballpark. The company had reason to believe he was abusing FMLA and turns out they were correct.

Speaking as someone who has taken FMLA multiple times during my years at Eagle/Envoy...I have to say that if true, this guy is a jack wagon...and I'm only calling him that because the swear filter won't let me call him what he actually is. 99% of us are honest and actually need FMLA from time to time for actual reasons such as the birth of a child. Then along comes this guy, abuses the system, lies about it, and in the process makes all of us look bad. Screw him.

But no...the company is not paying money to have a team of PIs track everyone who calls out sick. Goes to show that if you write it on the internet people will believe just about anything.
It's a d**ned good time to be an Envoy pilot.
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Old 09-01-2016 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector


What's the latest rumor? Military leave now? Lovely. Next rumor will be that they are firing people for going to the bathroom during a turn.









Number 1 or 2?
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Old 09-01-2016 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
WHO IS THIS GUY/GAL ?


I DO NOT WANT TO BE A VICTIM, OR MY FAMILY TO BE A VICTIM OF GUN VIOLENCE. FAMILY SAFTY IS IMPORTANT. COST OF LIVING IN CHICAGO IS ALSO HIGH.



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You are only a victim if you chose to be a victim.

Most victims are idiots who walk around with their heads down watching their phones. Or, they are just little ****

Grow a pair, learn to shoot, carry a weapon to protect yourself... and wear some body armor... you'll be fine.


If you choose to be a sheep... the wolves will eat you.

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Old 09-01-2016 | 08:55 PM
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Not to mention this is hook, line and sinker fear mongering. If you watch certain types of news outlets (not starting anything political, here) you're going to see a armed thug around every corner. Show some reason and look for a decent area and use good SI and you're not in any more danger than the rest of us.
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Old 09-01-2016 | 10:39 PM
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You are only a victim if you chose to be a victim.

Most victims are idiots who walk around with their heads down watching their phones. Or, they are just little ***

Grow a pair, learn to shoot, carry a weapon to protect yourself... and wear some body armor... you'll be fine.


If you choose to be a sheep... the wolves will eat you.
Drunk driver crosses over and hits you head on, you are dead.
Gas leak in the building you are in.
Fall off a ladder.
Accidental drowning.
Part fails on your car and you crash.
Something falls on you and kills you.

There are a MILLION ways to die that you have NO CONTROL of.

All the cops killed in Dallas were trained, and carried a weapon. Maybe they even had body armour.

You are deluding yourself to think you can keep yourself and your family safe from everything.

No one, no politician, or anyone else, can keep you safe.

If you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, it is over.

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Old 09-01-2016 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by EGL04
Nothing like a few floggings to keep people in order.
The floggings will continue until morale improves!
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Old 09-02-2016 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by uavking
Really dude, Mesa?
Why not? Ric, Pedro and Co. have sunk us to their level anyway so what's the difference?
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Old 09-02-2016 | 06:39 AM
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I agree that this place has taken a turn for the worse, but we are not at Mesa level yet. By NOT doing anything to improve things we are racing towards Mesa level airline
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