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#5341
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Can't answer anything in first or third paragraphs.
But I'm 6'2". Getting into and out of the 145 really isn't too bad as long as the seat was left in the full back stowed position. Otherwise it can be a little awkward getting in. Once in the seat it's absolutely fine, lots of room. Loved the aircraft as a pilot. Hated it as a passenger.
CRJ never flew it, but heard it's a tight fit.
E75 is difficult to get in due to the placement of the yoke. Seat really needs the ability to go back 2more inches and it would be perfect.
New hires are getting the 175 and holding lines within 30-60days right now. I would expect some stagnation as all the slots are filled overtime.
If you want DFW, it's currently only 175's and 145's.
ORD is 145 and CRJ
LGA will be 145s.
MIA when/if it opens will also be 145s
If you want the opportunity to get back to the northeast I would take the 145
But I'm 6'2". Getting into and out of the 145 really isn't too bad as long as the seat was left in the full back stowed position. Otherwise it can be a little awkward getting in. Once in the seat it's absolutely fine, lots of room. Loved the aircraft as a pilot. Hated it as a passenger.
CRJ never flew it, but heard it's a tight fit.
E75 is difficult to get in due to the placement of the yoke. Seat really needs the ability to go back 2more inches and it would be perfect.
New hires are getting the 175 and holding lines within 30-60days right now. I would expect some stagnation as all the slots are filled overtime.
If you want DFW, it's currently only 175's and 145's.
ORD is 145 and CRJ
LGA will be 145s.
MIA when/if it opens will also be 145s
If you want the opportunity to get back to the northeast I would take the 145
E75 could be a squeeze, my torso is just a bit longer than average, it's mostly my legs that are far longer than average, could cause a problem. Makes small seat pitches more scary than low headroom honestly. E75 is probably what everyone wants due to the easy transition to the mainline E90s, would I be right to assume? Maybe the 145 could be a better bet.
Not so concerned about staying in the northeast, I'd actually say DFW and ORD are easier to move to as I've relatives and/or friends nearby who I could crash with for a couple weeks while apartment shopping. LGA would be ludicrously expensive and kinda defeats the point of living in a city where you can take the subway to work when none of the airports have it and the LGA AirTrain plan is a "complete mess," according to a friend in the MTA, concerned about the already overcrowded line 7. MIA, well, I went to high school in TPA, I've had enough of Florida I think. Really the only state that I'd actually have some sort of advantage to living in would be Michigan; don't have to update my DL and car reg. As far as I know Detroit is cheap too, but not quite DFW levels of cheap. Friend there says you can find a decent 1 bed place in Irving for like $400, or a nicer one in Dallas for 1K. Is that true?
Makes Endeavor appealing, but I kinda like the idea higher 1st year pay of Envoy/Piedmont/PSA, as well as if that CFI program is any good, I'd be locked in while bridging the 1000+ hour gap.I wouldn't have thought so either; I'd find out if I got a class. It's not so big of a deal to me, honestly, as long as it's roomy enough for me to fit in either the 145 or CRJ I'm fine with those. Might make it a bit uncomfortable if I have to get up to use the loo, shorter segments would help mitigate that a bit.
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#5342
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...this doesn't make sense. you upgrade when your SENIORITY NUMBER can hold it, the equipment you fly is irrelevant when upgrading.
that is why it is very important to get in as soon as you're able and get your seniority!
#5343
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My bad. I'm still learning the system. I only flew Part 135 for a year and had spent maybe a couple weeks discussing the 121 lifestyle before I got laid off. My knowledge level of the ins and outs of the daily life as a 121 pilot is minimal, unfortunately. Thanks for the heads up. That does make more sense.
#5344
My bad. I'm still learning the system. I only flew Part 135 for a year and had spent maybe a couple weeks discussing the 121 lifestyle before I got laid off. My knowledge level of the ins and outs of the daily life as a 121 pilot is minimal, unfortunately. Thanks for the heads up. That does make more sense.
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Also a question for taller pilots (6'+
how do you fit into the 145? The one time I've flown on one as a passenger I had to pretty much crawl down the aisle into my seat, fortunately I was on the left side of the aircraft and didn't have an overhead bin right above me or I may have had to slouch forwards quite a bit. I'd imagine the cockpit would be a tight fit. The CRJ is a tight fit too but it's just a stoop rather than nearly a crawl.
how do you fit into the 145? The one time I've flown on one as a passenger I had to pretty much crawl down the aisle into my seat, fortunately I was on the left side of the aircraft and didn't have an overhead bin right above me or I may have had to slouch forwards quite a bit. I'd imagine the cockpit would be a tight fit. The CRJ is a tight fit too but it's just a stoop rather than nearly a crawl.
Once in the seat it's adjustable enough to be comfortable, but it ends up being pretty close to the floor, so my knees end up kinda high. The pedals go far enough forward that it's not uncomfortable hand flying. On longer legs I can run the seat all the way back (have to unrecline first) and then stretch my legs pretty well, or once most of the way back can raise the seat for a more normal seating position. Never been in the front of a 145, but the back is pretty painful for me. I'm sure you can relate.
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I'm taller than that. Height is a non issue in the cockpit. I have flown the 145, CRJ, and 175.
The seats and pedals adjust.. complete non issue once seated on any of them. 145 is the easiest to get in and out of since the seat slides sideways and back, CRJ second easiest, and 175 is a pain to get into the seat. The stupid yoke is back into the seat which doesn't slide back far enough so you have to push the yoke forward forward while crawling in. It is an inconvenience for literally about 10-20 seconds total of your day. Who cares really. Personally, I'd like to take a screwdriver and take out the seat adjustment limiter block they rigged in there so it would let the seat come back further like it is designed to do but maintenance would likely flip out. So I just deal with it. Once in the seat it's fine.
Now in the back? All of them are uncomfortable as hell for a tall person, the 145 is miserable. Mainline is nearly just as bad though with the new AA 737 being the worst of all time.
The seats and pedals adjust.. complete non issue once seated on any of them. 145 is the easiest to get in and out of since the seat slides sideways and back, CRJ second easiest, and 175 is a pain to get into the seat. The stupid yoke is back into the seat which doesn't slide back far enough so you have to push the yoke forward forward while crawling in. It is an inconvenience for literally about 10-20 seconds total of your day. Who cares really. Personally, I'd like to take a screwdriver and take out the seat adjustment limiter block they rigged in there so it would let the seat come back further like it is designed to do but maintenance would likely flip out. So I just deal with it. Once in the seat it's fine.
Now in the back? All of them are uncomfortable as hell for a tall person, the 145 is miserable. Mainline is nearly just as bad though with the new AA 737 being the worst of all time.
#5349
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Can anyone in class currently or recently finished confirm when you get your badge? I'll have a military obligation during training (that I may be unable to miss) and I'm trying to figure out if I'll be able to JS by then.
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Our class got it by day 4 of indoc back in August.
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