Tom Kazansky

EDIT: not from me, but from someone in this most recent indoc class:


"Heads up everyone:

This week during indoc class there was a guy watching a YouTube video on the start procedure for the 175. There was also an FAA rep sitting at the back of the class all week that told all of the students "I'm strictly here as an observer of the teacher for the week. Don't worry guys, I'm not here to observe you all." The FAA rep and another classmate were CONSTANTLY interrupting and making jokes and being disruptive and loud, and quite frankly disrespectful to the instructor.

... everyone got back from lunch and apparently instead of telling the pilot that he should be paying attention in class, the FAA rep called the dallas area FAA office and filed a report against the classmate for gross misconduct.

Another pilot asked the rep why he couldn't simply talk to the pilot and his response was that he "wasn't allowed to interact with any of the students, it would be going against procedure."
(Apparently being disruptive during an indoc class is okay though)


Just a heads up guys. Don't give anyone a reason to tarnish your record!!!

(Part of me was worried to even post this. Who knows what someone can get in trouble for these days?)"

Pntbllr233

Really wasn't a cool deal. Left a very bad, slightly betrayed feeling in the class.

highflyer1980

SOP. Get used to it here. It certainly won't be the last.


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Duck Sausage

Thats some BS.. We had one in ours doing the same crap. Interrupting to the point the instructor said something.

Tom Kazansky

Part of me understands that he shouldn't have been watching YouTube videos during class... however, there were easily many ways he could have gone about correcting the action without being a d***. On top of cackling nonstop and keeping the students from being able to study.

Skyvector

So what was the issue? Watching YouTube videos or being disruptive? There's always at least one in each class (new hire and recurrent) who has to make a remark about everything, always gets into discussions about obscure procedures, etc...

It's annoying and eye rolling but to have an FAA "observer" report him seems a bit much.

cbrittle

I was jump seating on an Airbus and an FAA guy had the center jumpseat. He was really friendly, put his cell number on his biz card. I thought....man, I have a friend at the FAA. This post reinforced my concern with regard to his kindness... Never let you're guard and professionalism down regardless of how nice and helpful they seem. They have a job to do and may use creative tactics to reveal issues. Never!!

havick

So the FAA rep was actually the one being disruptive him/herself?

SilentLurker

Simple...

Sounds to me like some one (fed observer) was covering his button at the degradation of the other indoc student (both in the
Wrong). Action taken to a higher level incase the instructor reported both behaviors.

CYA folks, they are on the clock & getting paid.

FEDS MINDSET: I'm not actively observing you, but I am aware of you. Indirectly... because I'm the Fed getting paid on the Fed's dime, and want you comfortable, and to be yourselves. My job is not to observe you, but I can't help it because I'm the fed.

Folks... Any Federal offical who is off duty that observes a reportable activity has the obligation to call it in. It's his duty both on or off duty! You observe & give your opinions, because your an Aviation Legend. Like Geico... "It's what you do."

Tom Kazansky

Yes. The gentleman watching videos on YouTube had the volume off. Nobody even knew he was watching a video.

The FAA rep, however, was always loud and making comments and giving his opinion as well as making loud jokes with a class member sitting next to him.

Edit: spelling.
You shouldn't be on YouTube during indoc. But is it necessary to flex your FAA muscles and make a permanent mark on someone's career on their first week of their 121 career?