New Envoy Information
10-24-2016 | 05:39 PM
#5542
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Why in the world would they do that?
(That's a serious question. Please refrain from the water cooler banter that this type of question usually elicits).
I genuinely don't understand why someone from a cubicle who probably doesn't really care very mich about how a trip is put together (except
For meeting monthly mins) would be in charge instead of the actual pilots???
That was a major red flag for me.
(That's a serious question. Please refrain from the water cooler banter that this type of question usually elicits).
I genuinely don't understand why someone from a cubicle who probably doesn't really care very mich about how a trip is put together (except
For meeting monthly mins) would be in charge instead of the actual pilots???
That was a major red flag for me.
PBS, would be a huge give from us. It would get rid of any trip conflicts. Say your bid has carry over into November like some of the October packets had flying into the 3rd. PBS would not allow you to have any trips that conflicted with that. Our current system, you can bid for a line that has a sequence on those days AND YOU ARE PAY PROTECTED. Many pilots use this to their advantage and get a whole sequence paid for without flying any of it. Also, our current system allows us to drop whole sequences if they touch our vacation. So one week of vacation can turn into 2 to 3 weeks. PBS would get rid of that and only allow you to bid for trips around your vacation, and one week would be one week of vacation.
While PBS could give you a little more control over exactly what days you are off. With our contract it is not worth it at all.
10-24-2016 | 05:58 PM
#5543
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The union is involved some with the building of trips.
PBS, would be a huge give from us. It would get rid of any trip conflicts. Say your bid has carry over into November like some of the October packets had flying into the 3rd. PBS would not allow you to have any trips that conflicted with that. Our current system, you can bid for a line that has a sequence on those days AND YOU ARE PAY PROTECTED. Many pilots use this to their advantage and get a whole sequence paid for without flying any of it. Also, our current system allows us to drop whole sequences if they touch our vacation. So one week of vacation can turn into 2 to 3 weeks. PBS would get rid of that and only allow you to bid for trips around your vacation, and one week would be one week of vacation.
While PBS could give you a little more control over exactly what days you are off. With our contract it is not worth it at all.
PBS, would be a huge give from us. It would get rid of any trip conflicts. Say your bid has carry over into November like some of the October packets had flying into the 3rd. PBS would not allow you to have any trips that conflicted with that. Our current system, you can bid for a line that has a sequence on those days AND YOU ARE PAY PROTECTED. Many pilots use this to their advantage and get a whole sequence paid for without flying any of it. Also, our current system allows us to drop whole sequences if they touch our vacation. So one week of vacation can turn into 2 to 3 weeks. PBS would get rid of that and only allow you to bid for trips around your vacation, and one week would be one week of vacation.
While PBS could give you a little more control over exactly what days you are off. With our contract it is not worth it at all.
10-24-2016 | 06:03 PM
#5544
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Also, does the envoy trip system allow us to trade parts of our trips? Or does the trade have to be the entire trip?
10-24-2016 | 06:49 PM
#5545
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Something about your "there aren't any replacement pilots coming" claim doesn't add up.
What does add up is that by your own admission you are heading to AA very shortly, and like clockwork you have adapted the burn-it-down mentality of many of the flows who have come before you.
What does add up is that by your own admission you are heading to AA very shortly, and like clockwork you have adapted the burn-it-down mentality of many of the flows who have come before you.
Perhaps you missed my point. Let me be more clear...the CRJ's are leaving, and that is not necessarily a bad thing.
10-24-2016 | 10:04 PM
#5546
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I've adopted a burn-it-down mentality? Why not say that nobody respects women more than Trump, or that Hillary did not know that "C" stood for classified while you're at it?
Perhaps you missed my point. Let me be more clear...the CRJ's are leaving, and that is not necessarily a bad thing.
Perhaps you missed my point. Let me be more clear...the CRJ's are leaving, and that is not necessarily a bad thing.
Next year? Not so much.
10-25-2016 | 04:46 AM
#5550
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Trip trade no idea, I have been on reserve pretty much since I started over 3 years ago. It is by choice, more nights at home for me.
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