How many of the weekends do you hold off? Both sat and sun?

 

Yeah, the group of us in the middle as FO's are getting tired of being crapped on. 2.5 years and not really able to hold much as far as a line even still. CS is unrealistic with requests and we are not thrown a line because we do not matter like new hires do.

and I still can not get a weekend off with either a line or on rsv.

 

Random question. Is there a non-rev lounge at DFW?


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Yes, off to the side at every gate.

 

Last year you were ripping me a new one on here for posting negatively slanted info. Have you changed your outlook at Envoy?

 

Do you weigh about 250, wear glasses at night. And stand at the gate during boarding?

 

They all closed during bankruptcy permanent

 

Honestly, yes. Being on the new side of the group, next month seemed to look better from what we were being told and told and told but seems to still be worse than before. Esp seeing what has been happening to the ORD and other hub operations in the last 6 months with so many new players coming into the game that were never there like this before. When you are new it is hard to tell who to believe and how to read a lot of the situations and happenings going on around here.

Would I like to keep saying rainbows and unicorns. You bet! and if someone chooses to come here on their own accord, fine. I do realize that New Hires will help with flowing the senior guys over. But after sitting in the DFW crew room almost every week over the summer sitting ready, most of the 3-6 year FO's seem to be getting to the point of leaving in large numbers and saying screw it.

AA needs to realize that yes people are coming for the flow and what they are selling/telling NH's but the way the group of us that have been here on the junior CA and senior FO side is leaving a bad taste in the mouth and when AA gets into a hiring panic in a few years lots of people in the WO's they are going to want to call on are going to have left for other places. And Surprise! AA is up Fart Creek without a paddle yet again cause they never get ahead on anything.

I think so many of us are in the boat now of we have no faith that the flow will continue after the 824 and mgmnt is going to slow it way down and continue to use the grieve it mentality. I may be wrong but it is setting up that way and the ENY management has done a marvelous job of getting most of the pilot group to hate them.

 

Ah. You must be on the little 145 or CRJ. You will hold better schedules soon!!
Sorry man.

 

Thanks for the info. What's the average number of days off for lineholders on the 175? Also what's the average credit on a 4 day trip?