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Old 12-22-2016 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
I saw the email on growth in lga initially 3 airplanes growing to six. 100+ upgrade vacancy is good so upgrade time drops BUT how does that help that your class date is 18 to 24 months after the award, it's still 8 years to the capt pay check.
huh? no one is waiting for 18 months dude, the 175 and CRJ upgrades are the ones with the biggest delays right now, and it ain't 18 months...chill.
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Old 12-22-2016 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by use2fly
What good does another upgrade vacancy do? With the latest flow plan, some upgrades from the last vacancy don't start training until May.

After looking at the flow plan again, I see that the Embraer Capts are done in March.
Alot of guys from the last vacancy are finishing ioe. The jr LGA guys go next month. I'd expect this 107 to be online by summer.
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Old 12-22-2016 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
I saw the email on growth in lga initially 3 airplanes growing to six. 100+ upgrade vacancy is good so upgrade time drops BUT how does that help that your class date is 18 to 24 months after the award, it's still 8 years to the capt pay check.
3 airplanes?? It's at least 10 by March, why on earth would we have 100+ pilots by spring for 6 planes.

Also by years end the numbers I saw was 200+ pilots in NY utilizing both lga and jfk. Id expect to see alot of the Miami fly through in tbe LGA lines.
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Old 12-22-2016 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Smutter
LGA 145 - avg days off - 13 credit 78
ORD 145 - days off 13 credit 71
DFW 145 - days off 13 credit 78
Crj - 12.9 days off credit 76
175 - 12.7 days off 77 credit

What happened cR700, looks like lines tanked even more. Come on dacuj and cr700, explain how it got worse.


You can make more on reserve here. To make credit other regionals are making we would need to drop down to 9 days off to get 85 credit.

This place is getting bad
It's just prepping you for your new life at AA.

We have a line in DFW on the bus that works 20 days in January, for 83 hours. Three day redeye slash trips that pay 11 hours. You only get one day off between trips, but at least you finish at 05:35 on the last day, after flying all night. So thats like day off, right?

PBS will make it even better starting next month.
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Old 12-22-2016 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nimslow
It's just prepping you for your new life at AA.

We have a line in DFW on the bus that works 20 days in January, for 83 hours. Three day redeye slash trips that pay 11 hours. You only get one day off between trips, but at least you finish at 05:35 on the last day, after flying all night. So thats like day off, right?

PBS will make it even better starting next month.
It's my understanding AA has rigs, including a min day value. How does that work out with your example...??
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Old 12-22-2016 | 02:44 PM
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Loopholes.
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Old 12-22-2016 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
Loopholes.
More crying from the whining contingent. Keep on buddies. Keep whining about how horrible it is here. You should just go ahead and leave now. I guarantee you that we will find somebody who wants to go to American to take your slot.
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Old 12-22-2016 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dacuj
More crying from the whining contingent. Keep on buddies. Keep whining about how horrible it is here. You should just go ahead and leave now. I guarantee you that we will find somebody who wants to go to American to take your slot.
We'd all be happy if you didn't act to be a pilot here. From new hire to recruitment in 2 months, congrats. Now go **** off,

Please do not listen to dacuj, he is a troll or a recruiter spreading lies.
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Old 12-22-2016 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Smutter
We'd all be happy if you didn't act to be a pilot here. From new hire to recruitment in 2 months, congrats. Now go **** off,

Please do not listen to dacuj, he is a troll or a recruiter spreading lies.
You couldn't be more wrong. I've been here over 10 years and have volunteered in two different union positions. I'm a line pilot just like you. I just have a positive outlook and see Envoy for what it is. A good regional with the best opportunity out there. A path to American Airlines.
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Old 12-22-2016 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dacuj
You couldn't be more wrong. I've been here over 10 years and have volunteered in two different union positions. I'm a line pilot just like you. I just have a positive outlook and see Envoy for what it is. A good regional with the best opportunity out there. A path to American Airlines.
The flow is good for those of us that have been here for years and are in or near the 824, and potentially good (but not guaranteed) for those who are just getting hired now. But what a simplistic stretch it is to call us a "good regional" and leave it at that. I agree that our training is good, and our maintenance, but our schedules are awful, objectively and statistically the worst they've been since you've been here (if you've really been here 10+ years like me). Staffing levels are unacceptably low, junior manning and extensions rampant. You know the contract states in black and white that the company will properly staff the airline, right? How many months in a row have they been willfully violating that section? Add that to the long and growing list of contract violations, the pay errors, threats, turning fatigue calls to missed assignments, bad faith negotiating, egregious firing of union leaders, cynical self-congratulating when the market forces them to improve pay, and you still think we are just a "good regional" and nothing else?

No, of course you don't. You've already literally admitted that you are a salesman. In other words, you don't have credibility, per your own admission.

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