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Old 09-21-2016 | 09:53 AM
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Dnt want to believe rumors because this would be hard to prove, except the message from PDT points to this as being factual also, they said they were caught off guard. I sure hope PDT get their bonus and pay raises soon.

Historical reputation for PSA bites again???? I have no idea. Lets hope not

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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviatrx
Heard they jumped for the bullet points before getting any real language. PSA had a knee jerk reaction and came up shorter than the other two carriers. The 3 MEC's tried to raise the bar together and the PSA jumped the gun resulting in lost potential gains for all 3
And who is your source for this? Whenever I hear a rumor about another pilot group, I take it with a grain of salt. Are you sure it wasn't some line pilot, who heard it from his buddy, who heard it from another buddy who loves drama?
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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:15 AM
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And who is your source for this? Whenever I hear a rumor about another pilot group, I take it with a grain of salt. Are you sure it wasn't some line pilot, who heard it from his buddy, who heard it from another buddy who loves drama?
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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
Dnt want to believe rumors because this would be hard to prove, except the message from PDT points to this as being factual also, they said they were caught off guard. I sure hope PDT get their bonus and pay raises soon.

Historical reputation for PSA bites again???? I have no idea. Lets hope not
I don't know how long you've been around but PSA has always been the low end place. They were the Mesa of the east coast. Except Mesa actually hired some decent people. PSA might have some decent refugees now but man, they really didn't have too high of a bar when it came to hiring.

Piedmont had decent guys - you had to be to pass training. Eagle was the lone standout of the WO's, on par with the quality of guys that were at XJT, AWAC, etc.
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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:27 AM
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I have not read over PSA's language, but where did they fall short?
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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:28 AM
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The deals are the same pretty much across the board. No increase in pay rates at all, just change in what year you hit levels on the current pay scale. So how did PSA come up short, or junp the gun? They actually talked them into raising the bonus for CAs.
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Old 09-21-2016 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by WakeWash
The deals are the same pretty much across the board. No increase in pay rates at all, just change in what year you hit levels on the current pay scale. So how did PSA come up short, or junp the gun? They actually talked them into raising the bonus for CAs.
They left money on the table and didn't work with the other MECs.

I know it's a tough pill to swallow when your reps aren't really doing what's best for everyone, but it happened. One of them has an abnormally high number of roll call votes and he's flowing soon. Don't you think that should raise some eyebrows?
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Old 09-21-2016 | 11:37 AM
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yeah, the im out of here syndrome and i dont care.
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Old 09-21-2016 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
yeah, the im out of here syndrome and i dont care.
Envoy had many of them a few years back. Unfortunately it's tough to see what's happening until it's too late. People don't want to believe it, but hindsight is 20/20.
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Old 09-21-2016 | 01:27 PM
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agreed. my statement covered everyone. flow, off street.
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