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Old 10-11-2018, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CaseTractor View Post
So an FO displaced to CA in a seat they do not desire is not seat locked and may preference bid to get a seat they do desire in subsequent system bids.

Are they (displaced FOs) only able to get the top 30% of seats available to them on subsequent bids like other CAs, or can they bid for and have available 100% of the other equipment CA seats. Not sure how to ask that or if it makes sense. Do the same equipment change rules apply for displaced FOs as CAs who had preference bid? Is it tracked?
You're technically still an FO til you pass your Fed ride. If you're still on IOE when that next bid is run, then you fall in the FO bucket. At least that's my understanding, and how it played out for me back in July after an April displacement.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by EmbaeDriver View Post
Looking at the prelim results, there’s a guy hired on April 2017 that got awarded captain. No previous 121/135. Did all his hours with Envoy. So his upgrade time was 1year and 6months. Less than advertised by the company (finally haha), it think they advertise 2.5yrs


I got the upgrade award back in OCT ‘17 exactly at 1.5 years of service as well, no prior 121/35 time, and I am an April 2016 hire. So it’s not entirely uncommon.


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Old 10-11-2018, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Iflythe72 View Post
Tried searching but couldn’t find it.

Can you be assigned a non CDO trip on a CDO standby or rap? I understand if the companies in a pinch and need someone to do it they would. But wondering if this is common or if anyone has had it happen.
They will try, but you can only be used for a CDO. Usually you let then know about it they talk to a supervisor and realize it. They can have you work the night flight and deadhead back in the morning as a CDO so they can still cover the trip.
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker View Post
Exactly...

14 CFR 61.51.e.1.(i) a sport, private, commercial, *airline transport pilot* may log flight time whenever the pilot is the sole manipulator of the controls of the aircraft for which the pilot is *rated*, or has sport pilot privileges for that category and class of aircraft, if the aircraft class rating is appropriate, or when (ii) The pilot is the sole occupant of the aircraft.

Many usefulness of flight time without taking off and landing.

OP, not take anyone’s word for it speak to you local FSDO, they’ll tell you the same thing.
Your fine logging it. It’s known. But good educational opportunity to check with your local FSDO/local DPE, company Check Airmen/CPO.
There are no 100% relevant chief counsel interpretations about it. I'm in the landing required camp, the letter referenced deals more with flight duty times, not logging time.
But if you want to log it, it's your logbook, I wouldn't judge either way, I just read the reg differently.
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:03 PM
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Just noticed my class date in my HI10. I should be doing a quick upgrade, but noticed I’m in training for nearly 2 months. Does that include IOE or is that just my class/sim footprint? Also, does QU still go for 2 days and then home for CBT’s?
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Pntbllr233 View Post
Just noticed my class date in my HI10. I should be doing a quick upgrade, but noticed I’m in training for nearly 2 months. Does that include IOE or is that just my class/sim footprint? Also, does QU still go for 2 days and then home for CBT’s?
That’s correct. They will adjust back down once you finish sims.
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Old 10-11-2018, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pntbllr233 View Post
Just noticed my class date in my HI10. I should be doing a quick upgrade, but noticed I’m in training for nearly 2 months. Does that include IOE or is that just my class/sim footprint? Also, does QU still go for 2 days and then home for CBT’s?
Already have a class date before final award?
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Houpilot2001 View Post
Already have a class date before final award?
I thought this too when I first read it but it's probably from the prior bid. Some guys haven't hit training yet.
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by uavking View Post
You're technically still an FO til you pass your Fed ride. If you're still on IOE when that next bid is run, then you fall in the FO bucket. At least that's my understanding, and how it played out for me back in July after an April displacement.
That helps, and makes sense. Training Freeze, how does that work? I thought if you were within 14 days of starting training, or in training, you could not bid, and thus would have to bid as a CA after, and thus the 30% rule apply. ie not eligible to bid again until done with training?

Can displaced FOs bid anytime no matter what?
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Thousand pages of goodies. Thought a moment of recognition, and perhaps a moment of silence is due.
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