Envoy
09-27-2017, 11:56 AM
#4631
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 57
Starting CAE on Friday and driving up to Dallas tomorrow but I haven't gotten any hotel reservations from recruiting and no one seems to be picking up the phone over there? Any idea on whats going on/any idea on what I should do?
09-27-2017, 11:57 AM
#4632
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 19
Originally Posted by bigtime209
I don't know who exactly they meant were overstaffed, but I can assure you Envoy is not overstaffed. Critical coverage every month, blanket denials of PVDs, junior manning, etc...I assume you mean Coast is over capacity?
09-27-2017, 12:05 PM
#4633
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 439
Originally Posted by Blackhawk2ATP
Take this as what it is but the Pilot recruiter Captain (whoever) that gave the brief that day said that as off that day the company was over staffed by 200 pilots. Also, that the RTP was backed up to about 10 months with no prior fixed wing flight time (not my case).
09-27-2017, 12:12 PM
#4634
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,523
Originally Posted by Blackhawk2ATP
Take this as what it is but the Pilot recruiter Captain (whoever) that gave the brief that day said that as off that day the company was over staffed by 200 pilots. Also, that the RTP was backed up to about 10 months with no prior fixed wing flight time (not my case).
09-27-2017, 12:26 PM
#4636
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: E-175 CA
Posts: 339
Originally Posted by bigtime209
I can believe a recruiter told you that. But the notion that we are overstaffed at the moment is laughable. If you tell any line pilot we are overstaffed, they'd laugh in your face. If we were overstaffed, we wouldn't be zeroed out on reserves on a daily basis, we wouldn't be metering flow, we'd have zero and part time lines, we wouldn't be junior manning guys into days off, we would be able to get personal days approved etc....I'm not trying to give you grief, I just think it's asinine that recruiting is trying to say we're overstaffed.
09-27-2017, 12:34 PM
#4637
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 49
Overstaffed? HA! We are no where near overstaffed. There will be no slow down on hiring. Look at how that effected Compass. They stopped hiring for 6 months and when they started back they couldn't get any applications. If we're going to keep flowing, we have to keep hiring. Hiring and recruiting will continue to be a max effort because the company is always thinking about growth and expansion. They want more airplanes on the line. Those 40ish other 140s sitting at SJT aren't generating any revenue.
09-27-2017, 01:08 PM
#4638
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
Originally Posted by SullyJR
Overstaffed? HA! We are no where near overstaffed. There will be no slow down on hiring. Look at how that effected Compass. They stopped hiring for 6 months and when they started back they couldn't get any applications. If we're going to keep flowing, we have to keep hiring. Hiring and recruiting will continue to be a max effort because the company is always thinking about growth and expansion. They want more airplanes on the line. Those 40ish other 140s sitting at SJT aren't generating any revenue.
I really hope we can ramp up the training department and get through the back log so we can really get growing.
09-27-2017, 01:35 PM
#4639
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 412
Originally Posted by Pedro4President
They are pulling all the 140s out of SJT. It's not hard to realize that we are heavier on FOs than CAs. With MIa opening up and ORD getting some 175s this will create even more short term surpluses and shortages. I don't think anyone has an exact number the number of pilots we are going to be. Suffice it to say we are going to hire as many as we can train. We will grow or shrink as hiring or attrition determines.
I really hope we can ramp up the training department and get through the back log so we can really get growing.
I really hope we can ramp up the training department and get through the back log so we can really get growing.
It's a shame they aren't able to create a abbreviated transition course for previous 121 guys. Considering the amount of guys they could potentially get from other regionals.. I am sure our friends at the FEDS would have a field day with that, but that could expedite the process a bit. I can tell you the indoc is generally the same at all companies except a few company specifics.
09-27-2017, 02:10 PM
#4640
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 501
Envoy
Originally Posted by Blackhawk2ATP
Take this as what it is but the Pilot recruiter Captain (whoever) that gave the brief that day said that as off that day the company was over staffed by 200 pilots. Also, that the RTP was backed up to about 10 months with no prior fixed wing flight time (not my case).
This is why I monitor the forums. It's crap like this that really grinds my gears. These recruiters are no better than the likes of Dacuj, dolphin-whatever (can't remember name). They just spout stuff out without any realistic evidence to back it up. Worst thing is they do it to NH just for that final lure and pull the sucker in. How about you recruit based on reality instead of fantasy? Oh nevermind, this is Envoy we are talking about.
I know I can't change it, but choosing an employer shouldn't be like visiting a car lot. "Who's going to screw me over the least?"
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