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10-16-2017, 08:32 AM
#5193
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Originally Posted by BeechPilot33
Looking at the bid that just came out. We have basically street Captains now. And with all the flying we have to cover there is no reserve for new hires or new upgrades. No forced displacements.
10-16-2017, 08:41 AM
#5195
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Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA
Have training next month, what’s the best way to maximize pay with a conflict ?
Dfw guys don't get the travel day. So if you are a dfw guy then look for a 4/2 and have the last day of a trip on day one and the first day on the next trip on the last day of training.
10-16-2017, 11:20 AM
#5196
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
And you get to flying old 145 aircraft. They also throw in low time lines with 11 days off and 4-5 legs per day for free.
10-16-2017, 11:23 AM
#5197
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Originally Posted by ChickHicks
So, there are no pilots on reserve at all? Or is It just guys that want to be on reserve?
We don't have reserve at Piedmont, which is good on so many levels. None of that sitting at home/in a hotel waiting for the call BS. Obviously the airline needs reserves for sick calls etc etc. They offer us 3x premium to sit reserve on off days. 16 hours of pay regardless of getting called or not. They did the math and figured it's cheaper to pay us large sums of money than to train an additional 30 pilots to cover our open flying
10-16-2017, 11:31 AM
#5198
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Envoy
Is CA bid award or displacement - until school house training still taking 3 - 4 months? Will this decrease?
From CA award to completion of CA training and being able to wear 4 bars takes approx 6 months, am I right? Thus the notion of "Upgrade" (getting paid 4 bars) is therefore approx in reality 6-7 months... Am I right?
From CA award to completion of CA training and being able to wear 4 bars takes approx 6 months, am I right? Thus the notion of "Upgrade" (getting paid 4 bars) is therefore approx in reality 6-7 months... Am I right?
10-16-2017, 12:47 PM
#5199
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
Is CA bid award or displacement - until school house training still taking 3 - 4 months? Will this decrease?
From CA award to completion of CA training and being able to wear 4 bars takes approx 6 months, am I right? Thus the notion of "Upgrade" (getting paid 4 bars) is therefore approx in reality 6-7 months... Am I right?
From CA award to completion of CA training and being able to wear 4 bars takes approx 6 months, am I right? Thus the notion of "Upgrade" (getting paid 4 bars) is therefore approx in reality 6-7 months... Am I right?
Pilots from the May upgrade finished IOE in middle of September and Fed ride in early/mid October.
10-16-2017, 01:53 PM
#5200
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm
Is Envoy really forcing people to upgrade, and causing displacements to other bases, even if the person is not ready to upgrade but happens to have the 1000 hours?
People were given DFW, moved to DFW. Signed apartment leases and now displaced to LGA CA (while people JUNIOR to them, including new hires get to stay in their current seats in DFW). That is extremely wrong when someone junior to you gets to stay and you are forced to commute across the country to a horrible reserve system with virtually no days off after preassigned RAPs, (and you will be forever junior on the fleet and be stuck with horrid relative seniority since everyone will keep upgrading above you). Seniority means nothing here when this happens...
By coming here with more experience their quality of life is severely penalized due to out of seniority order displacements. Some people may want to waste 40 hours a month commuting across county with 1 day off a week to upgrade ASAP. Many with families and other obligtions do not. Seniority "should" protect that right to choose, but it doesn't. They should be hiring street CA's over forcing anyone into this situation.
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