Originally Posted by Blackhawk

Okay, so here's my question. I live a little over an hour from LGA, but give myself 2 hours to get there. JFK takes 1.5 hours but would have to give myself 2.5 to get there. I have well over 1000 hours 121 so looking at being forced to upgrade.
1. How many days off a month? Do you bid on them? If so, are any GDO or can CS just do what they want with them?

11 days off a month on Reserve. Usually three groups of three and then one group of two. They are guaranteed days off. We bid on hard lines both for reserve and line schedules. There are two instances of CS doing whatever they want. One being if you sign up for a relief or composite line. Then your schedule consists of leftovers and you have little control on what days you will have off. It's a set schedule but a cobbled together one before the month starts.

The other instance is if you get junior manned into your day off. There is contract language that governs this.

Our available schedules come out around the 11th-15th of the month and are finalized between the 19th and the 21st.

2. It sounds like you don't bid on LCR/SCR? CS just decides each night what they want for the following day?

Long call reserve doesn't exist at Envoy, we only have short call 3 hours LGA-JFK, 2 hours every where else. We call it RAP. We also have the glamorous airport standby

One or two people per shift depending on the size of the base.
0600-1400
1000-1800
1500-2300

It's not so bad if you have good books to read and don't mind walking to get exercise. I would stay clear of the crew room unless you want to get prescribed anti depressants. Plenty of doom and gloom complaining.

Everyday between 10:00-14:00 You profer for the next days schedule. The most senior people on reserve get available trips or whatever reserve position they want and the most junior people get the leftovers, usually airport standby. There is a big caveat to the above, you can be the most senior person in base and if everyone junior to you has a day off tomorrow you can still get called in to do airport standby. Some people like to play reserve roulette staying at home and requiring an airplane ride to get called into work. Not making it into work is a quick way to end your AAG career. It's happened before and will happen again.

3. How often would I be looking at airport standby each month? Those tolls add up...

This is the part of the forced captain upgrade that makes the whole thing so screwed up. For the next 18-24 months you will have folks senior to you slide into the same captain status you will hold and kick you down the reserve list. That will continue until people that were hired with zero 121 SIC at the same time as you work their way up to getting the 1000 hours of 121 SIC and then upgrade. It will only be then that you will start accruing seniority in your status. So theoretically you could be the most junior captain for eons. If the doors blow wide open on people with the 1000 121 SIC willing to come here and be captains right away then the situation mentioned above will be heavily mitigated by these junior "street captains" rolling in beneath you. The upgrading FOs senior to you will still kick you down the list but it will be better.

When I was super junior FO I would say I was doing airport standby 2 to 3 days a week of my 5 day reserve stint.

4. I use Waze and have never been late to work, but if you hit bad traffic and take a picture of it on Waze can you commuter clause?

The commuter clause in our contract only addresses those commuting by airline and unable to make it in.

5. What else am I missing?
Trying to get as much info as I can before making that lateral move.

Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA

See above all answers are in your post.


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Originally Posted by Icaruss

When you get a Reserve Schedule for the following month, which window(s) you can try to pick up OT on days off? I think the first automated window is for line holders only, correct? Also, when can you do swaps with your schedule? i.e. move a day off.

Originally Posted by Icaruss

Roger that, thanks!

If you get an overnight trip while on reserve and you’re supposed to be on reserve the following day (day you fly back from the overnight). What happens after you get back from the overnight? What are you required to do with CS?

Originally Posted by Blackhawk

Thanks for the info.
Yeah, I try to avoid crew lounges. They are doom and gloom everywhere.
That sucks about the commuter clause. I've had times where my street is not plowed for a day or two and you're ordered not to drive. Too many issues with people thinking "I have AWD, I can do it", then getting stuck and blocking the plows. Currently, we can commuter clause that, or if we get stuck in traffic we just snapshot an app that shows it.

Originally Posted by Icaruss

Roger that, thanks!

If you get an overnight trip while on reserve and you’re supposed to be on reserve the following day (day you fly back from the overnight). What happens after you get back from the overnight? What are you required to do with CS?