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05-31-2019 | 04:06 PM
#682
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Joined: Apr 2007
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From: A320
I get your point and it’s clear that the regional with the highest upgrade times is XJT and it’s almost twice as long as the second highest regional which I believe is Republic at 2.5 to 3 years. If you want to come here and upgrade at 1000 sic that’s a mistake. The only thing that will bring that time down was shrinking the company from 3k to 1200 in the last 4 years by attrition and bringing Kalitta and CPP things to wipe the senior groups away. I think it’s safe to say we are currently growing.
So simple math with roughly 800 CA and 400 FO’s if you hire a realistic 600-800 ppl in two years every FO currently on property should upgrade and that’s what makes XJT potentially a good pick compared to other places. Not recruiter talk just basic math.
QOL is great for me as a FO lineholder. Line-holders here should have nothing to complain about with ILIW, unless you don’t know how to use a computer. Of course Reserve is horrible like every other regional. Pay could come up and upgrades should come down but remember you are at a damn regional do your time and get out.
So simple math with roughly 800 CA and 400 FO’s if you hire a realistic 600-800 ppl in two years every FO currently on property should upgrade and that’s what makes XJT potentially a good pick compared to other places. Not recruiter talk just basic math.
QOL is great for me as a FO lineholder. Line-holders here should have nothing to complain about with ILIW, unless you don’t know how to use a computer. Of course Reserve is horrible like every other regional. Pay could come up and upgrades should come down but remember you are at a damn regional do your time and get out.
Your math assumes normal attrition. XJT combined with the old ASA group makes for a very stagnant list. Honest question - how long have you been with the company and is this the only regional airline you’ve worked for?
05-31-2019 | 04:31 PM
#684
On Reserve
Joined: Mar 2019
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What’s also simple is to see that the top 700 may never leave. With very slow movement in this area, all the company will do is cycle through FOs. Currently, everyone on the list from #800 and senior has either had unsuccessfully completed the hogan, opted out, unsuccessfully interviewed at United (CPP) or has not been offered a hogan (ex ASA CRJ).
Your math assumes normal attrition. XJT combined with the old ASA group makes for a very stagnant list. Honest question - how long have you been with the company and is this the only regional airline you’ve worked for?
Your math assumes normal attrition. XJT combined with the old ASA group makes for a very stagnant list. Honest question - how long have you been with the company and is this the only regional airline you’ve worked for?
05-31-2019 | 04:39 PM
#685
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Joined: Jan 2019
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From what I’ve seen so far the CPP has very stringent contingencies, but if followed it’ll be rewarded? They told new hires that you have 90 days to put publish an application via airlineapps, to be considered for a Hogan. No one has done so far and time is ticking.
05-31-2019 | 04:44 PM
#686
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Joined: Jul 2017
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From: CRJ9 CA
What’s also simple is to see that the top 700 may never leave. With very slow movement in this area, all the company will do is cycle through FOs. Currently, everyone on the list from #800 and senior has either had unsuccessfully completed the hogan, opted out, unsuccessfully interviewed at United (CPP) or has not been offered a hogan (ex ASA CRJ).
Your math assumes normal attrition. XJT combined with the old ASA group makes for a very stagnant list. Honest question - how long have you been with the company and is this the only regional airline you’ve worked for?
Your math assumes normal attrition. XJT combined with the old ASA group makes for a very stagnant list. Honest question - how long have you been with the company and is this the only regional airline you’ve worked for?
05-31-2019 | 05:35 PM
#687
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Joined: Apr 2007
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From: A320
I have been here for two years, and it’s my first regional. Of all the CA I’ve flown with about 70-80% are actively looking to leave. Most waiting for second chance with UA. The ASA group that’s actually looking to stay is around 100 people but some are very senior guys within a few years to retirement. So by comparison to other regionals it’s very top heavy but that 700 number is completely off. Max 400 people. Remember so far 25% of UA hires (close to 200 people a year) are from XJT so things shouldn’t be stagnant here unless they stop hiring our guys through the CPP and if that happens we have a bigger issue than that Letter 2 crap here.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. There’s a difference between wanting to move on and actually being able to. If you’ve been at a regional airline for 10 years and have 500+ hours jet PIC and haven’t gotten a call, you’re either doing something wrong, not employable or don’t really want to go somewhere else. This equals stagnation and a not so good scenario for the pilot group.
Hope the best for ya.
06-01-2019 | 03:15 AM
#689
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Joined: Oct 2017
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Class by class, it hasn’t been followed 100%. Over the course of a year, they have. Some classes have less, some have more...but at the end of every year, it’s been 25%. As for being at a regional more than 10 years, with more than 500 jet PIC....that doesn’t always mean you’re unemployable or doing anything wrong. Many of us just had terrible timing. Your overall assessment of XJT is something I do agree with, though....minus the hyperbole.
06-02-2019 | 07:44 PM
#690
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Joined: Aug 2012
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From: 'Van Driver
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