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Old 07-23-2020 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Technically it was an off-airport landing
To be pedantic, they landed at the airport. They just didn't land on the runway...


Originally Posted by njd1
If you capitulate, we will all eventually be forced to do the same.
I'm a C5'er and am very tempted to let our MEC know I'll be very unhappy if we give up anything to survive. Our contract is bad enough (and worse when the LOA expires), and I'll be damned if I save my job by selling out the industry. I can't force the company to give us something new but I can refuse to give up what we already have.
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Old 07-23-2020 | 06:56 AM
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The legacy XJT pilot group has always been the first to stand up and say NO to concessions, setting the tone for regional industry contract negotiations as a whole. See every contract negotiation and vote since Contract 2004.

​​​BUT, things have changed and unfortunately I think the vast majority of the legacy group that voted no in the past has moved on. This leaves a bunch of non legacy XJT lifers and new hires that may tilt the ship, unfortunately, in the wrong direction. Good luck to all!
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Old 07-23-2020 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
UA didn’t say one 50 seat operator. They said one 145 operator.
person I quoted said Skywest did over half of UAX 50 seat flying and had 180 CRJs for United. Was just showing the numbers
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Old 07-23-2020 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
UA didn’t say one 50 seat operator. They said one 145 operator.
I venture to guess that UA doesn’t care about 145 or 200 - only pilots get all excited about their toys.

What UA needs is a 50 seat operator for the eastern US. With SKYW having closed ATL and LGA it is likely not gonna be them.
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Old 07-23-2020 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
UA didn’t say one 50 seat operator. They said one 145 operator.
Let's be clear here: ExpressJet management claims that's what UAL told them (hearsay). UAL hasn't said anything directly, and to my knowledge this statement has not been corroborated by Commutair.
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Old 07-23-2020 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
UA didn’t say one 50 seat operator. They said one 145 operator.
Today it’s we need only one 145 operator
Tomorrow it will be we need only one 200 operator .
Then we only need one 175 operator.
They will continue this crap until everyone accepts concessionsry wages to help them save $$$$$$$
F’em
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Old 07-23-2020 | 08:03 AM
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People keep forgetting that people are just not taking to the skies. Who knows how long it will last. Somethings gotta give, there isn’t an indefinite supply of money for these companies to pay labor and stay alive.

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
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Old 07-23-2020 | 08:12 AM
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Do XJT pilots get profit sharing?
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Old 07-23-2020 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
People keep forgetting that people are just not taking to the skies. Who knows how long it will last. Somethings gotta give, there isn’t an indefinite supply of money for these companies to pay labor and stay alive.

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
OK then......so why don't the airlines get to have their landing/gate fees cut, or their fuel prices, etc, cut too since pax capacity is just 25%?

Why does it have to be labor that's disproportionally targeted?

I can't believe that anyone thinks voluntarily taking a cut will do anything. Didn't the industry learn that the hard way in the early 2000's?
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Old 07-23-2020 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
People keep forgetting that people are just not taking to the skies. Who knows how long it will last. Somethings gotta give, there isn’t an indefinite supply of money for these companies to pay labor and stay alive.

https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput
If they can’t pay their labor they can’t pay, that sucks but it’s no reason airline pilots should be working for less than they’re worth.
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