Originally Posted by J1180

If xjt takes concessions, they’ll survive. If not, look for them to be offered rehire at c5 as a newhire.

Who’s to say UA can’t just give c5 the sims, training center, mx hangers, parts, etc. They Ultimately call the shots at both regionals, right?

Originally Posted by branfordboater

This ^^^^^^ our fate is already sealed. I dont think paycuts save us. And even if they could, should we really consider them? At best it buys us a little time, which is understandable, but what's the long game here? Years and years of stagnation and misery? United either wants us as a partner, or doesn't. And I say this as one of the "lifers". I'm not working for less at this point, plan B is underway, as anyone who has spent way too many years at a regional should already know!

Good luck to all.......

Originally Posted by DirkDiggler

Anything is possible. Everyone can go back to year 1 FO pay with 1 week vacation to save the company. Or not.

Originally Posted by Rodviyr

We tried to move on, but were told by mainline that we weren’t worthy. Don’t blame us.

Originally Posted by avi8tor614

You think every qualified pilot will make it to a major? You have NOOOO clue. Some will make some won't period. Yes try to check the boxes if you can. Make your self marketable. Set yourself up for success I agree. It's no guarantee you will make it. I use to be you 23 years ago. ERAU grad cream of the crop. I tried military, two tall waiver needed. Went to charter and flight instruction. Built some hours multi engine hours. Interviewed at Colgan. First step right. Well guess what September 11, happened. Sucked. NO AIRLINE JOBS. I went to corporate. 2007 started putting apps out there competing with military guys at the time. Went to job fairs, hustling. Had two interviews lined up at Continental Express and Pinnacle. 2008 Economics threw a curve ball. Guess what NO AIRLINE JOBS. I stay corporate for stability. 2015 hits over 8000 hours of flight time most of it corporate. I once again throw apps out. jetBlue calls tells me yes would love to have me but now the issue is no 121 time. Ughhhh. I apply to regionals. Mesa only with no reserve time. I jump over here expecting to be here a year TOPS. I reapply to jetBlue countless times, crickets. I interviewed at Frontier, Spirit, United twice, on-site interviews with FedEx and UPS. 13000 hours flight time over 70% jet time. Great track record, no DUI, degree, I interview well, polished, charming, funny, Mr by the Book. You get to where I am and see you write. "Look in the mirror to whom to blame". Maybe you got lucky and got the dream job. Cudos to you. I'm closer to the backside of this career than I am the front side. I've been like others hit with unfortunate career road blocks. I look in the mirror and say I gave it a good run and still will give it a run. Before you start judging, understand the dynamics of this industry. Some will make it some won't. Period

Originally Posted by Longduckdong

I think it’s clear then, it wasn’t directed at those, like you, who keep trying. There are those who tried their “dream” airline, didn’t get it, started sulking, and went no further in their efforts. It sounds to me that’s who j1180’s comment was directed at.

Originally Posted by itsmytime

or worse than that, the guys who never tried anywhere because they didn’t want to learn another plane, couldn’t afford the pay cut, were pretty senior in their base, I make enough here, or whatever other random excuse they had for not moving on.

Originally Posted by Rodviyr

I’m not taking it personally, but I just have to vent again: why is there is so much animosity toward an airline pilot with 25 years (or whatever) in at an airline - just because they don’t fly heavy equipment? Our airplane is about the size of a G5 - would everybody throw shade on a 25-year G5 captain because he/she didn’t “move on?” You shouldn’t say that being a 777 captain is the only legit civilian flying job out there, and anything else represents laziness or ineptness. Building a long career anywhere should be respected and rewarded, and might have even been done by choice due to whatever that person’s family situation is. Attitudes like yours help undermine our industry because it says that any job less than heavies over the ocean is a stepping stone and nobody should be there - repeating the industry lie since 1978.

Originally Posted by itsmytime

or worse than that, the guys who never tried anywhere because they didn’t want to learn another plane, couldn’t afford the pay cut, were pretty senior in their base, I make enough here, or whatever other random excuse they had for not moving on.

Originally Posted by Puck Hawg

You mean to tell me you weren’t a card carrying OBAP, NGPA, or WIA member?

THE TRAVESTY!