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06-07-2012 | 12:14 AM

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Confused

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Whats a retart?

06-07-2012 | 02:36 AM

#112

Red97Vette

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....wow dude, awesome idea, let's just go out of business, I never thought of that.

06-07-2012 | 04:21 AM

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captain beefy

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Originally Posted by Confused

Whats a retart?

Urban Dictionary, the American standard of inner city education, defines Retart as:

retart

(n)
1. a person, place, thing that has been tarted (made flamboyant and wh*re-ish) not once but 2 or more times.
2. a reheated pastry
3. retarded spelling of the word retard

Duuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh! it means reheated breakfast pastries paying our union dues.

....duhhhhhhh

06-07-2012 | 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker

After almost 2 years of little to no progress in contract negotiations all of the sudden the MEC thinks we will have a TA in a couple of months. The primary reason for the slow progress being ASA guys dragging their feet. Now that they may shrink due to Delta potentially gutting their 50 seaters they want to play ball all of the sudden.

I am in no hurry to help ASA push our guys on the street. ASA needs to "get on board" right Cpt Tony?

The first time I heard about a "two month"- ish time frame was when I emailed the reps during the all pilot conference call. At that time, I hadn't heard anything about the Delta TA, but I wonder if the ASA Mec guys (and/or our guys) knew what was likely coming by then...

06-07-2012 | 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by somertime32

I emailed SH and BH and asked them when the 200 contracts start expiring and the reply was 2017,18,19. If the hammer gets dropped earlier which it looks like it could it will take some time for airframes to go anyway.

But is there a provision in those agreements that would allow Delta to swap 50's for larger aircraft at some ratio? Are there any other loopholes they could use? Could they put you in a position where you can't meet minimum performance requirements and thus void the contracts that way?

I sure don't know. Are the CPA's public information?

06-07-2012 | 05:17 AM

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Farmlover

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Can we change the name please to "latest and greatest" please

06-07-2012 | 05:54 AM

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JustAnotherPLT

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Originally Posted by Farmlover

Can we change the name please to "latest and greatest" please

We're not a major Farmlover, we're not allowed to use "greatest" in our title, only latest.

**Sarcasm**

06-07-2012 | 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by drrhythm2

Of course there is. There are aircraft exchange ratios in the UAL CPA, and there will be on the DAL side if the DAL TA passes. It will be at least a year before we start seeing airframes exchanged (SKYW Inc still hasn't ordered new airplanes yet). Any loss in airframes will be offset with attrition, and we'll probably be hiring during all of it. This doesn't even account for possible AA flying. The company is in an obvious freak-out mode about getting everybody ATP eligible by 2013, so what does that tell you? But hey, these guys don't want to listen to facts, they just want to Chicken Little their way into a sub-standard TA. They act like 200 airframes will disappear tomorrow.

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06-07-2012 | 06:57 AM

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I haven't been keeping up with the regionals in several years, so please don't take these questions an comments as flaming.
Why is the SLI taking so long for you guys? I would think a ratio of some sorts to honor the fact ASA has larger a/c in its fleet and go from there. This seems to be the way other airlines have done it and seems fair somewhat am I missing?
Also I was wondering how long the ERJ's are to remain in the fleet. I know the CRJ 100/200 are coming due for heavy mx, are the ERJ's far behind?
Good luck in your SLI and Joint contract.

06-07-2012 | 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sinca3

I haven't heard of such a ratio. Perhaps one has been used at the Legacy carrier level since equipment determines "Career Expectations" financially. XJT's 50 seat pay rates are very close to some airlines' 70 seat rates, I don't think our "Career Expectations" are any different whether we fly 37, 50, or 70 seats. XJT operated for (and was owned by) Continental which didn't allow jets bigger than 50 seats, and even restricted the flying XJT could do for other airlines. Don't see where that would be a player in SLI. Yes the ERJ's and older CRJ's are coming up on the end of their useful life. There's been much discussion particularly on SKYW Inc Earnings calls about fleet renewal.