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06-10-2012, 01:19 PM
#151
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Originally Posted by goaround2000
No one is denying that, but the difference between some of us and the rest of you generation entitlement is that I don't expect other pilot groups to pay for my misfortunes. If the roles were reversed I would not expect the crj guys to pay for it if they can help it.
So the reality still stands, we'll know the results of the Delta TA, and vote accordingly, but if you think I'm going to turn my back on my brothers to save another pilot group, you're delusional!
So the reality still stands, we'll know the results of the Delta TA, and vote accordingly, but if you think I'm going to turn my back on my brothers to save another pilot group, you're delusional!
06-10-2012, 01:35 PM
#152
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Originally Posted by goaround2000
So the reality still stands, we'll know the results of the Delta TA, and vote accordingly, but if you think I'm going to turn my back on my brothers to save another pilot group, you're delusional!
1. Nothing has passed yet.
2. Takes years for the RJs to leave, this isn't an overnight deal.
I beleive that after all this is said and done we will be at majors anyways. Unless you're a lifer and at that point your Fed anyways.
06-10-2012, 03:30 PM
#153
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Position: CRJ CA
Posts: 328
Originally Posted by goaround2000
, but if you think I'm going to turn my back on my brothers to save another pilot group, you're delusional!
06-10-2012, 03:32 PM
#154
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT
Not sure why you guys are getting your panties in a bunch over the Delta TA.
1. Nothing has passed yet.
2. Takes years for the RJs to leave, this isn't an overnight deal.
I beleive that after all this is said and done we will be at majors anyways. Unless you're a lifer and at that point your Fed anyways.
1. Nothing has passed yet.
2. Takes years for the RJs to leave, this isn't an overnight deal.
I beleive that after all this is said and done we will be at majors anyways. Unless you're a lifer and at that point your Fed anyways.
06-10-2012, 03:44 PM
#155
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Position: UniCal 737 FO
Posts: 413
Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks
Aren't we supposed to ALL be brothers now, or your brothers are just the ones that fly the same plane as you? When do "the brotherhood" fences come down, in your estimation?
06-10-2012, 05:24 PM
#156
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My 4 year old just ran up and told me my 6year old hit him... and that is about the level of intelligence this thread has descended too.
ja2C was right, this is a quite moronic, third grade thread -- and I just have to say -- this is classic childhood, bully BS:
goaround2000
Nothing personal, but that was true school-yard, bully badgering. Complete opposite of mature.
Here's a legit question: So, if the TA passes and we have no SLI, then would the 35% of Delta's DCI ALPA new hires will exclude that ERJ side (negating the need to kick and scream over SLI?) Curious, it's pretty clear which half of the list flies DCI. Ehhh, might be a better question for the Delta folks on here.
ja2C was right, this is a quite moronic, third grade thread -- and I just have to say -- this is classic childhood, bully BS:
goaround2000
Then leave. There's the door, since you're the epitome of maturity why don't you move on to a more "mature" environment in aviation (notice the irony in that sentence)
Here's a legit question: So, if the TA passes and we have no SLI, then would the 35% of Delta's DCI ALPA new hires will exclude that ERJ side (negating the need to kick and scream over SLI?) Curious, it's pretty clear which half of the list flies DCI. Ehhh, might be a better question for the Delta folks on here.
06-10-2012, 05:32 PM
#157
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Originally Posted by squaretail
Here's a legit question: So, if the TA passes and we have no SLI, then would the 35% of Delta's DCI ALPA new hires will exclude that ERJ side (negating the need to kick and scream over SLI?) Curious, it's pretty clear which half of the list flies DCI. Ehhh, might be a better question for the Delta folks on here.
06-10-2012, 07:26 PM
#158
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Position: 737 Left
Posts: 1,825
Let us please try to remember that we are all in the same boat, regardless of which aircraft we fly. There will be a new contract, and there will be an SLI. We need to work together to make this work as smoothly as possible, not bury each other in the process.
06-10-2012, 08:16 PM
#159
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Position: CRJ200 Capt.
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Originally Posted by goaround2000
Here's what's going on though as I type this, our guys on ERJ are starting to realize why everyone is in a hurry to close this deal, and it doesn't bode well for us; so we'll just slow down for a bit and wait. If the Delta TA goes through, don't expect a TA to pass on our side unless there are significant job protections and QOL improvements. Not in a hurry, we have a good contract on the ERJ side. As far as I'm concerned we can just keep operating separately permanently!
There is a "need" to wrap this up if we are going to take advantage of some opportunities that are out there. IF the Delta TA passes, the 50s don't leave till the end of 2015. With attrition, and replacement 900s, I don't see any furloughs.
Yes there are many that think it is prudent to wrap this up...but it isn't because of pending furloughs.....
06-10-2012, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by squaretail
and I just have to say -- this is classic childhood, bully BS:
goaround2000
Nothing personal, but that was true school-yard, bully badgering. Complete opposite of mature.
goaround2000
Then leave. There's the door, since you're the epitome of maturity why don't you move on to a more "mature" environment in aviation (notice the irony in that sentence)
Nothing personal, but that was true school-yard, bully badgering. Complete opposite of mature.
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