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Old 06-22-2012 | 08:25 AM
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Oh.. of that I am sure... but the arrogance to say that..... unbelievable.
Old 06-22-2012 | 09:06 AM
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It's like listening to an entitled occupier talk! Then again, my guess is same generation.
Old 06-22-2012 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Banshee365
XJT is taking ASA's CRJ-200's when Delta tears up all the contracts to operate 15 flights a day from LAX-HNL, part of the 50 states thing...
The fifty state thing still makes me giggle - no variation of the -200 could make the mainland to island leg....sadly even Cold Bay isn't an option...the winds are usually more favorable coming back so maybe freight the planes over and come back when the weather cooperates? The -700 and -900 can make it but seriously, who wants to spend 5-6 hours in CRJ seats??

We do need to merge with the Skywest side fast though if we want to make it to 500 planes before the 2-1 swaps!! I can't wait to see what mgt comes up with next to boost morale!!
Old 06-22-2012 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy
The word going around is we will have a TA probably by the end of the week.
Just going by the most recent JNC update (06/22/2012) with about HALF the TA STILL in negotiation, I'd say that having it by the end of the week (when you posted it) is slightly off.
Old 06-22-2012 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by xjtguy
Just going by the most recent JNC update (06/22/2012) with about HALF the TA STILL in negotiation, I'd say that having it by the end of the week (when you posted it) is slightly off.
End of the year... Maybe...
Old 06-23-2012 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gtechpilot
The fifty state thing still makes me giggle - no variation of the -200 could make the mainland to island leg....sadly even Cold Bay isn't an option...the winds are usually more favorable coming back so maybe freight the planes over and come back when the weather cooperates? The -700 and -900 can make it but seriously, who wants to spend 5-6 hours in CRJ seats??
I may be completely off here, but I think (as retarded as the 50 state thing is) when thinking about Hawaii they probably meant operate like a Mesa and do flights around the islands.
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT
I may be completely off here, but I think (as retarded as the 50 state thing is) when thinking about Hawaii they probably meant operate like a Mesa and do flights around the islands.
Exactly right
Old 06-23-2012 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy
Word on the street is there will be a TA by summers end. The SLI will somewhat favor the ASA side. It is also being said that do not be to surprised if Delta comes in and buys some of the pilot group if not all. With Delta's lightning speed contract TA, and what looks like the same with Expressjet, makes one wounder why the rush. let's just say there is something in the works. Can't say much for the other regionals, but it appears that this Delta TA will benefit the new Expressjet, more than any other regional, for the better. Things are definitely looking good as time goes forward.
At least you are looking at it positively. I don't think it will be all bad but I think the regionals are going to change drastically over the next 5-7 years. Will be a fun ride!
Old 06-23-2012 | 02:55 PM
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We have gojets and pinnacle with next to zero leverage to get a decent contract. Even if they did have a good contract they still have a significant advantage from having such a relatively young pilot group seniority wise. That's not even mentioning that they have long lines of eager beaver flight instructors willing to do anything to gain their "1000 hrs pic" so they are competitive when the pilot shortage hits.

Despite the chest thumping on this forum the legacy asa guys and legacy xjt guys aren't that far apart in what we want out of this contract. We want a fair contract that allows some semblance of being respected as a regional airline pilot. We are the largest regional in the world and have the potential to save 40+ million a year in the merger and possibly more if we harmonize our fleet or merge with skywest. We can still be competitive but right now we are being torn apart by vocal minorities on each side with their own agendas. We have an intelligent management team but they are also playing a game with their own agenda that no one can quite figure out right now.
Old 06-23-2012 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by newarkblows
We have gojets and pinnacle with next to zero leverage to get a decent contract. Even if they did have a good contract they still have a significant advantage from having such a relatively young pilot group seniority wise. That's not even mentioning that they have long lines of eager beaver flight instructors willing to do anything to gain their "1000 hrs pic" so they are competitive when the pilot shortage hits.

Despite the chest thumping on this forum the legacy asa guys and legacy xjt guys aren't that far apart in what we want out of this contract. We want a fair contract that allows some semblance of being respected as a regional airline pilot. We are the largest regional in the world and have the potential to save 40+ million a year in the merger and possibly more if we harmonize our fleet or merge with skywest. We can still be competitive but right now we are being torn apart by vocal minorities on each side with their own agendas. We have an intelligent management team but they are also playing a game with their own agenda that no one can quite figure out right now.

I agree completely, +1

As to the contract, I guess my rep was a little off when I talked to him almost two months ago and he said to expect a TA "in May or at least by the end of June". Which is fine, I'm in no hurry. I have lots of sections I'm not willing to compromise on and I'd have even more if I was a fJXT guy.
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