Most everyone I've spoken to on the Xjet side wouldn't put up with this at all, regardless of whether a 12 year captain or 1 year FO.

 

Very well put

 

Not to mention, nothing says ASA is going to lose a bunch of Delta airframes. In fact, signs point to us being the biggest benefactor of the DL TA among the regionals, which won't even start affecting the RJs until late next year, and at that point it won't be more of a trickle than flood of RJ retirements.

CHQ and CMR 50-seaters are coming off lease in the next couple years, so there's ~40 or so airframes gone without any 76-seater swaps. There are 16 Pinnacle 900s to place somewhere before the additional 76-seaters are even ordered. And SKYW, with its cash reserves, superior credit and leverage with both Bombardier and Embraer, is in a position to (and recent media reports suggest they will) place a sizable order for RJs in the near future. These could be a large chunk of the 102 76-seaters that Delta will be adding to the fleet over the next five to six years. (Which would benefit Delta, as they're trying to keep their debt load <$10B. Keeping a large RJ order off their own books would work toward that end.)

Delta basically controls Pinnacle, so there's a big question mark as as to whether their 200's will even get swapped out for larger airframes, or on a favorable ratio if they do. Who else would get those new 900's? GoJetz? No, considering their lack of leverage, operational performance, etc etc. Mesa? Delta got burned there a couple times already. RAH? Nope.

Not saying things will be sunshine and lollipops at ASA, but all this fear-mongering by the XJT side about the Delta TA is completely unwarranted. No one knows how the Delta TA stuff will play out. It could be a disaster, it could be a huge boon. So, chill the fu(k out and wait and see. There's no reason to harpoon a TA just because of fear-mongering by a few. And there won't be any sacrificing of the most junior XJT pilots (who, by the way, were hired by ASA post merger and therefore are junior to all ASA pilots) to furloughs. It's amazing to see the fear and misinformation coming out of the pmXJT side.

 

The same thing WILL BE going on at United's side..... very, very soon....... The longer they stall, the more money THEY put in their pockets. Period. ExpressJet is trying to get extensions on the airframes already!!!! What does that tell you? There is NO replacement aircraft......... Keep dragging the contract along till they're parked.......

Call someone in the know about the airframe serial numbers and hours/cycles.........

TOAST!!!!!!!!!!!

FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!

 

How do I verify the credentials of "someone in the know"?

PANCAKES!!!!!!

DUNDERHEAD!!!!


...I can punctuate and breakfast items and unwise people too

 

+1!!!!!!!!!!

 

I think you may have a stuck key or two, possibly the period and exclamation point. Might want to get that checked out.

 

I don't agree with anything you said less the fact that CAL is trying to bring all the 50 seat flying in house or what ever airplane it is. You guys sit down there up managements a$$ thinking this company need us to play ball, they need us more then we need them and if you don't see that well then your blind. Is the 50 gonna go away? Your dam right it is, (second point I agree to)but not till this CPA is up or CAL buys it out. I'm sorry but you just cant cancel contracts without due diligence by the party which seeks to end the agreement.

I'll gladly take my spot flying at a legacy when and if this company goes down but till then seeing as I'm gonna be here for a while, I'm gonna strive to continue the fight for what we all as professional pilots deserve. EVERY DOLLAR WE CAN GET, and when we we do secure an industry leading contract for you again! Well, I would just rather you say thanks and enjoy the fruits of mine and everyone's lobar that puts up the good fight. You people are the reason were considered second class pilots and mocked by our peers. If you want to insure the company survives and i'm sure you do that sticker that says 'I Will Fly For Food" is right up your alley.

 

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And that is why Expressjet legacy guys are so Fing awesome! That is the attitude ASA guys need to adopt.
XJTpilot,
My thoughts exactly.

 

It's not 3 hours, our line value is actually protected within +/-2hours in the transition.

I thought that with your vacation low, your 7 vacation days are credited at 4 hours each and you have to build a line to at least 65 hours. That is a difference of 37 hours. So how did you manage to only block 33 hours?

As for your duty rigs, I've been calculating what the difference in pay would be for me if we had your duty rig, so far it's less than one hour since the merger announcement (I almost always only work 4 days). It proved my theory that for us, it's not all that it's cracked up to be. Now if it was based on actual and not scheduled, then I would agree that that would be way better than what we currently have. Also, I wouldn't be happy with anything less than a 1:3.6 trip rig to go along with the duty rig.

As for soft time, people forget other MAJOR parts of our contract. Such as FBO, our higher 401k matching, our retirement contribution, our higher sick accrual, our OJI bank, our higher vacation accrual, our lower health benefit share of premiums (25%), and some minor ones like customs and drug test pay, uniform reimbursement (includes more than uniforms). And I know I'm probably forgetting things.

As for your comments about not getting at least the best of both contracts, they can cry poor all they want but just remember that they are choosing to pay for TWO sets of everything!

Actually, the CAL CPA says that XJT will get the first 75 replacement aircraft, 1 for 1.