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Old 10-24-2012 | 07:03 AM
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I agree that these talks of 15% raises are not sustainable. All we want is to not take concessions. No concessions in work rules and no concessions in pay. Talking to one of our negotiators recently, management is expecting us to bring everything down to ASAs current contract. I'm not trying to be one of those sticklers who doesn't listen to anyone, but I'm sorry I will never vote for this, regardless of the implications. We've lost too much already. Please, lets just keep what we have or better. We are all profitable now, so obviously its possible.
Old 10-24-2012 | 07:09 AM
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Question for LXJT pilots.
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How many pilot do you have that will not make the ATP mins by 08/2012 and also include pilots that may have 1500tt but will not be 23 years old.
Old 10-24-2012 | 07:14 AM
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It's pretty easy fellas, No concessions. That is all. This thread was alright before all the "Get on board" talk from the usuals. SMH.
Old 10-24-2012 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony:1281877
Originally Posted by DENpilot
You make it sound so simple. You forget we have leases on the aircraft to go along with the CPAs. You really think the company can work out such a complex deal that would likely cost them thousands in penalties just to try and violate the TPA? Not to mention the fact if they did this, our union would sue the company and would win.
Better check again to see who holds those leases... it ain't ExpressJet or SkyWest Inc...
Spot on. DENpilot is like many XJT folks who think their 145s are a golden goose and in no hurry for a jcba and sli. The blind leading the blind. They are going to follow McPickle right off the cliff
Old 10-24-2012 | 08:13 AM
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Spot on. DENpilot is like many XJT folks who think their 145s are a golden goose and in no hurry for a jcba and sli. The blind leading the blind. They are going to follow McPickle right off the cliff
Cool blanket statement bro. Why can't we all be friends? I think we need to have a pilot-sponsored beer fest. Guarantee a JCBA would be done in a week.
Old 10-24-2012 | 08:21 AM
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Cool blanket statement bro. Why can't we all be friends? I think we need to have a pilot-sponsored beer fest. Guarantee a JCBA would be done in a week.
Except that the L-XJT group would be demanding Saint Arnold Elissa IPA, and threaten to shut down the party if they don't get it, while we're all polishing off a keg of Natty Light and laughing at them.
Old 10-24-2012 | 08:25 AM
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Except that the L-XJT group would be demanding Saint Arnold Elissa IPA, and threaten to shut down the party if they don't get it, while we're all polishing off a keg of Natty Light and laughing at them.
Couldnt it at least be some bud light or maybe some pabst?
Old 10-24-2012 | 08:25 AM
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I am very concerned that some people don't realize that negotiations require give and take on both sides. This will not come down to a situation where the company gives and we take. Reality dictates that we MAY have to give up in one area to get something in another. The goal is to have a better OVERALL contract for everyone, not sticking on one point when we have may have made other gains. This is supposed to be a stepping stone, not a destination. Let's make it a good stepping stone and move on when the time comes.
Old 10-24-2012 | 08:29 AM
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I am very concerned that some people don't realize that negotiations require give and take on both sides. This will not come down to a situation where the company gives and we take. Reality dictates that we MAY have to give up in one area to get something in another. The goal is to have a better OVERALL contract for everyone, not sticking on one point when we have may have made other gains. This is supposed to be a stepping stone, not a destination. Let's make it a good stepping stone and move on when the time comes.
Amen. I don't get how you read The CrackPipe and you have the same people saying one minute how they intend to get out of this place ASAP, so they don't care if it shuts down, then the next minute pounding their chest how it's current book L-XJT +20% or nothing. If you're going to UAL next year, why does it matter?
Old 10-24-2012 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
Cool blanket statement bro. Why can't we all be friends? I think we need to have a pilot-sponsored beer fest. Guarantee a JCBA would be done in a week.
I doubt it. I have friends who are Republicans, and all the chicken and beer in the world won't convince them to vote for Obama. I'm all for give and take, as long as we keep things rational. SmartPref throws all forms of rational out the window. Complete waste of the L-XJT MEC's time and resources.
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