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Old 11-07-2012 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by McNugent
How so? What about the more senior guys still on reserve that should've gotten the line first?

Why not bring back relief lines? There's going to be left over pairings regardless of PBS. That would eliminate the "lucky line holders".
"lucky line holders" only get a schedule after every polit senior to them has been awarded their schedule first. If a guy has 28 hours of pre assigned credits From vacation, and two four day trips were not bid on or assigned to a more senior pilot then they can hit the 65 hour credit completion window. These are not trips taken from a more senior pilot.
Old 11-07-2012 | 05:22 PM
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Yeah, I understand that! What I'm saying is that the most senior guy on reserve could be built a relief/composite/whatever you want to call it line, and have the privileges and flexibility of a line holder. I used to love relief lines back in the day. Now, if you have the right amount of pre-assigned credit and you put the right availability on your bid sheet then *poof* instant line holder, regardless of seniority. Am I off my rocker by thinking that isn't right? Please, someone correct me here if I'm wrong.
Old 11-07-2012 | 05:38 PM
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There is an option for "all Remaining Pairings" which will just dump trips on you if it can build a schedule. That would be you relief line. If you leave restrictions that kick out a few trips they are free game for the junior guy. Nothing is taken from you that you didn't already give up.
Old 11-07-2012 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by McNugent
Yeah, I understand that! What I'm saying is that the most senior guy on reserve could be built a relief/composite/whatever you want to call it line, and have the privileges and flexibility of a line holder. I used to love relief lines back in the day. Now, if you have the right amount of pre-assigned credit and you put the right availability on your bid sheet then *poof* instant line holder, regardless of seniority. Am I off my rocker by thinking that isn't right? Please, someone correct me here if I'm wrong.
Why is it that you get so irritated by a phenomena that doesn't affect senior bidders, but not bothered by the fact that line holders get extra days off in their vacation months, but reserve pilots don't under line bidding? How is that exactly fair? If two pilots have same amount of vacation of seniority (for the argument's sake), they both should have the same potential number of days off regardess of line holder/reserve status in my opinion.
Old 11-07-2012 | 06:08 PM
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I'm not irritated whatsoever. Like I said, I've very much benefited from getting a "lucky line". I just never understood the fairness of it. There's a guy in my domicile 1 number senior to me this month that has a line because he volunteered for some ALPA stuff. Otherwise he would be deep on the reserve list. Is that fair? I'd like to ask the guy that was 1 number from actually holding a line.
Old 11-07-2012 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorhater
There is an option for "all Remaining Pairings" which will just dump trips on you if it can build a schedule. That would be you relief line. If you leave restrictions that kick out a few trips they are free game for the junior guy. Nothing is taken from you that you didn't already give up.
And I click that option every single month.
Old 11-07-2012 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by McNugent
I'm not irritated whatsoever. Like I said, I've very much benefited from getting a "lucky line". I just never understood the fairness of it. There's a guy in my domicile 1 number senior to me this month that has a line because he volunteered for some ALPA stuff. Otherwise he would be deep on the reserve list. Is that fair? I'd like to ask the guy that was 1 number from actually holding a line.
I don't agree with that either. I'm strictly talking about vacation.
Old 11-07-2012 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SiShane
Yup 24 started on the 5th. And we were told today in class that another one is coming on the 19th.

Great news! Have they told you where they are shipping you guys too? I'm sure it won't be until the 11th after the final awards are posted. Good luck in ground school bro! Look forward to meeting all of you out on the line.
No it won't be till after the system bid awards but with all the shuffling going on and all the classes behind us it's reasonable to get our first FO bids I think. Can't wait to be done. sim training starts Sunday for us. With check ride on the 22nd.
Old 11-07-2012 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SiShane
No it won't be till after the system bid awards but with all the shuffling going on and all the classes behind us it's reasonable to get our first FO bids I think. Can't wait to be done. sim training starts Sunday for us. With check ride on the 22nd.
Good luck! We're all counting on ya!
Old 11-08-2012 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Good luck! We're all counting on ya!
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Hurry up and get to the line guys!
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