Perhaps your point would have had some validity if you knew what you were talking about. I do however find it interesting how one feels so confident in their judgement of an individual posting on a forum. I don't have to suffer to know that someone else is. Just looking out for the guys that were told PBS would fix their problems and 5 years into their career they are still on reserve as an FO at a regional airline while the "Koolaidaholics" sell themselves short and bow down to the man.

If you are going to try and convince a very skeptical group of people that they should trust a system that at first seems evil and foreign, at least come up with something solid.

The point you were trying to make is negligible at best.

 

And PBS is a non-starter for most on the ERJ side. There is NO scenario that I know of where PBS is not a concession. If PBS for all is the one, single thing that management wants from this contract, then they had better be ready to compensate me through work-rule improvements or pay rates for that concession. Up to this point, they don't seem willing to discuss that so...here we are.

If this management group was serious about "cost competitiveness" then they can start by fixing some of the systemic inefficiencies that riddle this company. Ever since this merger, it has been one example of management buffoonery trumped by another and I, for one, am tired of subsidizing it with my paycheck and QOL. Period. And if that means the JCBA gets dragged out, so be it. Because I am not accepting a piece-of-junk contract just so we can all hold hands at the kool-aid fountain, proclaiming our love of PBS as one, big happy family while Jerry and friends laugh all the way to the bank. Nope, ain't gonna happen.

Agreed. I am tired of beating my head against the wall. I know I have been engaging a few individuals and quoted a few here, but I want it understood that the level of frustration I (and, anecdotally, I don't think I am alone on the ERJ-side) feel is not directed at the pilots on the CRJ-side. Instead its management and the two NCs that I have the beef with. Some on the CRJ side get it, some don't. Show me a TA and then we can have a real conversation.

 

This lucky lineholder crap better go away in the next contract.

Or how about a "G-Line" like what continental has...that guarantees those that fall within a certain seniority a line. The water gets too muddy when it gets down to assigning reserve.

 

Continentals PBS uses a globalization function which will not necessarily award your preferences in the order you want them awarded. We definitely don't want that.

 

Youre going to screw up an entire system just because a handful of guys get lucky and dont have to suffer through reserve for a month? What difference does it make to you anyways what happens to guys below you in seniority?

 

Do u know why that happens?

 

The funny thing is that the scheduling committee makes changes behind the scenes during the bid runs to make the runs work out with as few problems as possible. This is the EXACT same thing as globalization, it's just manual globalization instead of automated.

Here's a little secret. PBS doesn't honor seniority. It honors seniority AND credit. If you are the most junior person in the company and you have vacation you can get a line because you have pre-assigned credit.

Personally, I love PBS. The globalization thing is just a red herring. There are bigger things to worry about with the new contract. Focus on those.

 

You couldn't be more wrong. The PWG makes changes within the sort bias. This means it respects YOUR preferences unless you end up being unstacked or ignored. If you sort and select pairings individually, the sort bias will not work. When the system arrives at you, it will go pref by pref until you are complete or it reaches all remaining.

If you are ignored or unstacked on, then you are "globalized". The only reason you like this system is because if there is any "globalizing", PILOTS running the software do their level best to make sure it affects as few as possible.

 

Heard that the 4th new hire class starting later this month only has a few spots out of 24 filled with less than 2 weeks left to start.....64 currently in initial and already having trouble finding people with enough time for ATP mins?

 

This is 100% correct. I've been the most junior CA in base and still had a line due to pre-assigned credit. While I was thrilled and enjoyed the benefits of this, I did not think it was fair to all of the pilots senior to me.

If we do move forward with PBS in the future, this is something I'd like to see changed. Other than that, I really do enjoy PBS. I was totally sketched out about it for a while, but have learned more about the system and enjoy the flexibility and options it brings.