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#2521
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If you're going to criticize how to write language, you HAVE read the CRJ CBA, right? There's so many holes in that thing it makes Swiss cheese look solid
#2522
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From: EMB 145 CPT
I'll just quote this since everything else you said after this punk a.. cheap shot is meaningless.
For the last time, the 1 syllable version is "Ace". Leaving off the Y. You guys really are that stupid aren't you? Go away junior.
For the last time, the 1 syllable version is "Ace". Leaving off the Y. You guys really are that stupid aren't you? Go away junior.
Anyway, it wasn't meant as a cheap shot.
#2523
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From: EMB 145 CPT
This coming from the guy that still insit that Acey is one syllable.
Anyway, it was you who was only complaining that we had boiler plate language that required arbitration for new aircraft. Never did you mention anything about complaining that that language didnt exclude bankrupt airlines until you found the same arbitration clause in your own contract.
The only point I was trying to make to bozo is that that language is the same language negotiated by ALPA attorneys into new contracts. As ALPA "learns" of better language, they negotiate that new language in new contracts. It's pattern bargaining and that is what I meant by boiler plate language. If you don't like my choice of words in my explanation, fine. But arguing semantics distracts from the point itself.
Like I said earlier, we wouldn't be in this predicament if your MEC hadn't given their flight line or no merger ultimatum.
Anyway, it was you who was only complaining that we had boiler plate language that required arbitration for new aircraft. Never did you mention anything about complaining that that language didnt exclude bankrupt airlines until you found the same arbitration clause in your own contract.
The only point I was trying to make to bozo is that that language is the same language negotiated by ALPA attorneys into new contracts. As ALPA "learns" of better language, they negotiate that new language in new contracts. It's pattern bargaining and that is what I meant by boiler plate language. If you don't like my choice of words in my explanation, fine. But arguing semantics distracts from the point itself.
Like I said earlier, we wouldn't be in this predicament if your MEC hadn't given their flight line or no merger ultimatum.
All you have to do is look at the term sheet put out by your group and there is such an obliteration of effective language that will keep your contract compliance team busy until you're 6 feet under.
If you are so bitter about it, aim it at the party who forced the company to use their right to exercise that clause by giving flight line or no merger ultimatums. If you guys are so smart, you should have known about it, known the possible risks and ramifications of your ultimatum and compromised by taking the offer to arbitrate the PBS vendor issue. You've made our bed, now we are all sleeping in it. Thanks
#2530
Depends on timing. When I was a new hire I went right to the 700. In our latest vacancy notice pretty much all the upgrades are coming from current 700 FOs so I would imagine they would replace them. La Salle did just beat KState though so who really knows what will happen!
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